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A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by vinceguidry »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #83
vinceguidry wrote: post #66

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That board didn't have to flip. Ratner could have just kept selling the brand instead of stating his true opinions to a media circus. And the brand would have retained its value, perhaps all the way to today if he could have kept the unit economics alive. What made the brand successful wasn't what Ratner thought it was. The word at hand here is 'hubris'. Successful people slowly lose touch with the rest of the world…

No eventually it would flip - it happens all the time. It's just this time the boss of the company laid down the final piece so it sticks in the mind

"It happens all the time" doesn't have predictive power.

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by gdy »

Ididntdothis wrote: post #85
gdy wrote: post #78

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Why not? Women are naturally attracted to men in power, others seek career advantages over coworkers through sex with their superiors.

That’s why in most companies it’s absolutely verboten for a manager to have any kind of romantic/sexual relationship with subordinates. This should apply to the president too. Having sex with an intern is just shameful and shows serious character issues.

This doesn't make her a victim, just an accomplice.

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by wahern »

knicholes wrote: post #71
gunshai wrote: post #50

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If you're more curious about this story. I highly recommend slate's slow burn on the Clinton Scandal. https://slate.com/slow-burn Impeccable journalism and incredible interviews are given.

I'm sorry to be pedantic, but I'm confused by what seemed to be a recommendation to read this link because it's going to be awesome, but then you say "incredible interviews." I'd feel a lot better if you clarified, before I read, "incredible" as in "extraordinary" or "difficult to believe."

That's incredibly pedantic, and in any event even the dictionary gives extraordinary as a synonym. But I'd never before considered the derivation of incredible before, so I learned something today :) On the other hand, you've ruined me as I'll never be able to unsee in-credible. :(

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by gdy »

rifung wrote: post #67
gdy wrote: post #49

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How is she a victim?

Some would argue that she was coerced because of the vast power difference in their respective positions. It's part of the reason you aren't supposed to have relationships with someone you manage.

People argue all kinds of things, it doesn't make them all true

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by ses1984 »

celticmusic wrote: post #69
Ididntdothis wrote: post #42

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I never understood why Lewinsky got ridiculed that much. If anything she was a victim in the whole thing. Or am I missing something?

I think the issue is that she kept the clothing with the semen, which speaks about planning and cunning. People talk about the power imbalance, but at the end of the day there are a lot of people who sleep with their superiors because they want to rather than being coerced (explicitly or implicitly). I don't think we'll ever truly know if she was coerced or not, but we know for sure that she kept that clothing. And I…

>Everyone understands that she may have been a victim in it.

I think you might be being too generous with "everyone."

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by randogogogo »

dragontamer wrote: post #77
dmix wrote: post #73

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Got any examples of songs from the 1990s? That songs seems to be from this year.

Hmm, I just searched for the first song. I'm going to fully admit that I'm bad with music and don't listen to much. But 100% Lewinsky's name was used in a lot of stuff. Instead of listing lyrics myself... I searched around for maybe an article + writer who is better than me at this sort of thing. This article may be what you're looking for: https://www.thecut.com/2015/03/every-rap-song-that-mentions-...

She's joked on Twitter when people don't know who she is that her name has appeared in something like 400 songs.

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by natvod »

celticmusic wrote: post #69
Ididntdothis wrote: post #42

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I never understood why Lewinsky got ridiculed that much. If anything she was a victim in the whole thing. Or am I missing something?

I think the issue is that she kept the clothing with the semen, which speaks about planning and cunning. People talk about the power imbalance, but at the end of the day there are a lot of people who sleep with their superiors because they want to rather than being coerced (explicitly or implicitly). I don't think we'll ever truly know if she was coerced or not, but we know for sure that she kept that clothing. And I…

Actually, Monica only realized what the stain on the dress was several months after and it was her friend Linda Tripp who encouraged her to keep the dress: https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/13/monica-lewinsky-shares-x-rate...

Re: A man who destroyed his multimillion dollar company in 10 seconds (2018)

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Post by gdy »

scarmig wrote: post #65
gdy wrote: post #49

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How is she a victim?

Arguably because of the power imbalance between intern and President. But definitely because of how Ken Starr and the national media treated her.

The comment was about her being a victim of Clinton, not media.
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