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Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#291

RSS seems to have died off as social networks decided that they wanted to capture the users and vertically integrate. RSS turns them into commodities, and that's the opposite of what they want. Plus it's difficult to monetize an RSS feed.

That's a weird feeling, reading about how RSS is dead via RSS reader. Initially I wanted to stop checking HN every 20 minutes, and solution was that simple https://hnrss.org/newest?comments=200&count=100

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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I think the worse RSS isn't in not having RSS, it's when they say "Hey here's a preview of what we wrote." I really enjoy reading content on my terms on not having to go everywhere to get it. It makes my life much more peaceful.

If the site is ad supported I can see why they're doing it. Can't serve ads in the RSS feed (some RSS readers reserve that right for themselves).

You can use basic HTML and embed images, there's nothing stopping you putting adverts in a feed.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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Just as importantly, please add a meta tag that links to the RSS or Atom feed correctly so feed readers can discover it. Medium (which I hate and you should feel bad if you're using) finally added RSS feeds, but I still have to try and figure out what the hell they are every single time because they're not linked from anywhere and can't be discovered by my feed reader.

I have the problem that those meta links are kind of useless nowadays because Firefox removed the possibility to use Navigator.registerContentHandler() so I could redirect from the Feed button in the Firefox UI to TT-RSS. Now the button in the UI let's me download the Feed resource which doesn't make sense.

I use https://code.guido-berhoerster.org/addons/firefox-addons/fee... to restore this functionality.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#294

What do people use to read RSS feeds? I stopped following RSS feeds ever since Google Reader shut down, and wondering what a good free replacement is.

The very best RSS reader in my not-so-humble opinion is the FOSS [Newsboat](https://newsboat.org/), the spiritual successor to Newsbeauter.

It can pipe article links and text through other programs. I can pipe YouTube videos to youtube-dl, article text through pandoc and w3m, podcast files through podboat (newsboat's sister podcasting program), and links through a bookmarking program. You can also pipe article text through something like urlview to select links by pressing a key. I can also reload each of my 200+ feeds in a different thread to speed things up.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#295

RSS seems to have died off as social networks decided that they wanted to capture the users and vertically integrate. RSS turns them into commodities, and that's the opposite of what they want. Plus it's difficult to monetize an RSS feed.

RSS isn't dead. Smart bloggers will always expose an RSS feed, because readers following your RSS feed are more likely to read your blog than traffic from other sources. Having an RSS feed is the slightly weaker version of the mailing lists. Mail which is also going strong — and the easiest way to build a mailing list btw, is to connect your RSS feed to Mailchimp. And RSS feeds are mandatory for podcasts too. Some bl…

> And RSS feeds are mandatory for podcasts too.

Tell that to Stitcher. They have paid Stitcher Premium podcasts that you can only play in their (terrible) app. A third party developer ended up creating "Unofficial RSS Feeds" for them, but who knows how long that will last.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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> forgetting the kind of person who is techie enough to use RSS feeds is probably techie enough to turn off telemetry More like they have no choice but to ignore them because these are users who explicitly chose to be ignored. If you want your usage patterns to affect product decisions in a product you use, then don't disable telemetry for that product. You can't have it both ways. FWIW, there are very few companies…

Or, hear me out because will sound like crazy talk nowadays, you could simply listen to your users.

Most successful companies do both. Listening to your users is of course important, but it can't be a wholesale replacement for data driven aggregate behavior analysis because people have their own biases can forget things (and sometimes lie) and individual feedback can't be easily generalized to your entire population of users past a certain scale.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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The main difference between web push notifications and RSS is that as the name implies, notifications are pushed to you on the publisher's schedule, whereas you pull down RSS on your own schedule. Push has several advantages - one is background power consumption (less work for the device to just sit around and wait, vs constantly firing up the network and polling a server). Another is that you get your notifications…

> Apple, Google, and the people developing the modern Web platform have all failed utterly at preventing them. Safari has a preference for "allow websites to ask for permission to send notifications" (you can also set it on a per-site basis.) iOS is scrupulous about requiring permission for notifications and allows you to configure their annoyingness (plus current iOS asks you if you still want notifications for part…

I'd agree that Apple is the best of the pack right now and Mozilla is also making some improvements.

I think the web platform has a long way to go however -- considering what a low quality experience surfing the web can often be these days, it may already be too far gone.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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Back when RSS was a thing cloud based readers pass on the number of readers when requesting the feed. Analytics software would use this. I'd be surprised if this has completely atrophied away.

Which analytics software uses this? We primarily use Google Analytics, the user agent from the web server log file isn't getting passed back to them.

No Javascript analytics software can do this. It has to be log based.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#300

Please add h-feed to your site: http://microformats.org/wiki/h-feed And you can get free RSS, Atom, JSONFeed, ActivityStreams from that via https://granary.io/?input=html

What would be the benefit of this? I always liked microformats, but unlike RSS, they are truly dead. There never were many End-User Applications that utilized them. I hoped for a long time, browser would integrate features like automatic address or event detection, but it never materialized. And since Firefox won't even mention RSS feeds these days, I am not sure what microformats gets us at this point.

https://indieweb.org/projects

microformats + webmention == twitter-like replies across websites

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