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Anthony Levandowski Charged with Theft of Trade Secrets

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Re: Anthony Levandowski Charged with Theft of Trade Secrets

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The max fine of $8m is tiny compared to what he made.

He is also being sued. So at the end it’s going to be more then the $8m fine. This charge resulted from the judge at the civil action saying “If what is being said here is true then it would also be illegal so I’ll refer that aspect to the prosicutirs “

His employment contract included binding arbitration, which is reportedly completed.

There are no further civil avenues.

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Google has special compensation structure for some startup-like projects designed to keep talent in the company instead of leaving and building their own company. After they hit (or were thought to hit) all milestones, self-driving unit was valued at 8B by independent assessment. As one of the leaders, Lewandowki’s share was 120M.

Also, they bought his startup (510 Systems) to bootstrap the self-driving car unit. It's possible at least some of that $120M was an earn-out from the acquisition.

His startup was founded after he joined Google.

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While obviously I don't agree with the comment you're responding to (cf. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20813149 ), I wanted to ask you if there's a way I could have phrased the comment it was responding to to be less inflammatory. I didn't anticipate that it would provoke such responses, and I wonder if there's a way to avoid it other than just silence.

You are asking Dan, but answering from the bleachers: I think it's mostly just the length. If you write a short and direct comment that people are likely to disagree with, you invite short, direct and disagreeable answers. If instead your 'meatier' response to 'psychometry' ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20813149 ) had been part of the original, I think the responses might have been higher quality as well. It…

Thank you!

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Governments do not prioritize the freedom of their subjects; it's contrary to the incentives of everyone in the government. People win freedom by limiting the powers governments have over them.

I know, but that doesn't answer my question. I'm not asking which government prioritizes freedom. I'm asking which country prioritizes freedom. edit: also, could you explain why philosophy caused you to move around the world? You mention this on your web page ;)

Oh, that's a long story.

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So I've been reading about this dude, and apparently he started _several_ technology companies _while working at Google_, and sold a couple of them back to Google. Clearly his Google employment contract terms weren't the same as mine. In fact "normal" employees would be fired the same day for some of the things he did even before he copied off a bunch of Google IP. I kind of wonder what's so special about the guy tha…

Larry Page founded his own side startup while CEO. Levandowski worked on on Larry’s startup.

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> I feel like most software engineers don't really take intellectual property all that seriously. Most will not think twice about backing up emails when leaving the company which might contain code diffs, design docs, etc. You can't be serious. I would never think of doing this, and I can't imagine who would.

You'd be a rare bird. Most employees don't even bother to not pirate software, look at porn or whatever on their work laptops. Its somewhat hilarious.

Not rare at all in the software industry, is very common. I'd say people are more split than OPs letting on, but plenty of software engineers are extremely serious about IP.

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> It is not uncommon for tech companies, which fiercely guard their intellectual property, to sue former employees or the firms they join after they leave. Is it really that common? I feel like most software engineers don't really take intellectual property all that seriously. Most will not think twice about backing up emails when leaving the company which might contain code diffs, design docs, etc. Friends from diff…

> I feel like most software engineers don't really take intellectual property all that seriously. Most will not think twice about backing up emails when leaving the company which might contain code diffs, design docs, etc. You can't be serious. I would never think of doing this, and I can't imagine who would.

You might be surprised. Some people don't give a rats ass about IP, including software engineers. I definitely wouldn't say most, though.

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Isn't that attitude what 'disruption' culture is all about? Find a business that takes forever because of regulation, then ignore the regulation, and profit? Uber, that's an example of this. AirBnB in a lot of instances, too, I think.

This is not a correct reading of Christensen, nor close to it.

Explain, please.

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>There is more evidence that police have ticket quotas than there is that bureaucrats have regulation quotas. Yes, it would not make sense that there are requirements to produce impacts that aren’t publicly noticeable, particularly when there are complaints of scarce resources. Regardless, people have bosses and work multiplies. Maybe no one has no idea what they are doing, but someone has to have some self reflectio…

> but someone has to have some self reflection that it is harmful. I emphatically reject that notion, both from the perspective that that regulations and regulatory enforcement are intrinsically harmful, and from the perspective that self reflection of enforcers demoralizes them. Quite the contrary, people self deceive themselves all the time. No one ever the bad guy in their own story. Sure. Maybe someone sometime g…

If no one is the bad guy in their own story, than you are surrounded by children.

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I might be simplifying it but: A reliving Letter is document that your employer must (effectively) provide so you can resign and work for some one else, they can hold you hostage. Bond in this term refers to "An employment bond contains a clause which requires the employee to serve the employer compulsorily for a specific period of time or else refund the amount specified as bond value." Basically an indentured serva…

> Basically an indentured servant … or a young graduate paying back a university bursary. Not always evil.

No its pretty much evil - are not bursaries gifts.
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