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Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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If your tofu is tasteless, you're doing it wrong. One of the major perks of tofu is that it absorbs flavor really well.

Tofu by itself is tasteless.

Good raw tofu isn't tasteless. And bad meat doesn't taste good if it's not eaten with sauce or grilled.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

#52
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to be vegan to eat vegan food.

True. I'll guess (can't access the original report) that it's something like "expressly designated vegan version of main course items". For example, this from the Guardian: ... the owner of I Am Doner, a pair of kebab shops in Leeds and Harrogate, said his vegan kebab routinely outsold chicken, halloumi and falafel. Made from seitan, a meat substitute derived from wheat gluten, the “voner” kebab sometimes outsells th…

I'm surprised by the recent popularity of seitan. Obviously you don't have to avoid gluten to be vegan, but I've always had the impression gluten avoidance is adjacent to veganism. At least for vegans who cite personal health as their primary motivator.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

#53
post #44
post #16

After 15 years of not eating meat, the past 1-2 years have been a golden era of vegetarian options in the grocery store, restaurants, and fast food. Based on anecdotes and my social circles, the number of people completely avoiding meat hasn't changed. But omnivores adopting a semi-veg lifestyle has increased. If I had to pick one thing, I'd say environmental concerns are the main reason my omnivore friends and colle…

For me that's a mix of ethical and environmental concerns. I agree that there is a point in the belief that it is unethical to kill animals. That's not the most unethical thing that is happening in the world, there are a lot of things to argue about, but in general, I agree that in an ideal world, we should not do that. The environmental concerns, I only buy half-heartedly. I don't really believe that land-owners wil…

> The environmental concerns, I only buy half-heartedly. I don't really believe that land-owners will transform their pastures or soy cultures into rain forest instead of another profitable exploitation, I'd rather have states force responsible production and norms.

If farmers switch to other exploitative crops, it should drive up the supply and down the price of those crops, reducing the drive to clear more rain forest.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

#54

Vegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.

What words do you use to differentiate between an omnivore and someone who eats meat two to three meals a day?

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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post #44
post #16

After 15 years of not eating meat, the past 1-2 years have been a golden era of vegetarian options in the grocery store, restaurants, and fast food. Based on anecdotes and my social circles, the number of people completely avoiding meat hasn't changed. But omnivores adopting a semi-veg lifestyle has increased. If I had to pick one thing, I'd say environmental concerns are the main reason my omnivore friends and colle…

For me that's a mix of ethical and environmental concerns. I agree that there is a point in the belief that it is unethical to kill animals. That's not the most unethical thing that is happening in the world, there are a lot of things to argue about, but in general, I agree that in an ideal world, we should not do that. The environmental concerns, I only buy half-heartedly. I don't really believe that land-owners wil…

What are the constraints based on where you live? I knew someone who grew up heavily on beef since she was from a small, rural country. Is it a similar reason?

I'm interested in food insecurity and related things, which is why I ask.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

#56
post #31

Too bad that vegan food is mostly carbs and tasteless stuff like tofu. There are so many tasty and healthy vegetables and great veggie recipes but you have to cook at home because you can't find them outside.

At a very superficial level to this omnivore, vegan food appears to be moving away from tofu and more towards Impossible Meat. And that's a step backwards from this omnivore's perspective. I like vegan burgers because they contain lots of tasty ingredients like black beans, corn & cauliflower. I don't want pseudo-meat because I still eat meat occasionally. Hydrolized Pea Protein is not "real food" IMO.

As for tofu: marinate in maple syrup and tamari, then roast. And I first had that at a restaurant.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

#57

Vegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.

There's no reason for them to be absolute, is there? If I eat one non-vegan meal every 20 meals, then I think it's reasonable to say my diet is 95% vegan.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

#58

Vegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.

I try to eat a vegan meal at least a couple of times a week and vegetarian usually once a day. If semi-vegetarian is off limits, what am I?

You are flexitarian. Welcome :) Here take a fruit and if one day you want a steak go ahead.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

#59

Vegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.

If we have friends over, and decide on an Indian takeaway. We might order two vegan mains, two meat, and two vegan side dishes are shared between all of us. What's your term for that? Given the site's market and the story, semi-vegan seems a reasonable compromise to describe many takeaway orders.

> What's your term for that?

Why should there be a specific term for that?

You're describing an order that is neither vegan nor vegetarian. It's no different from a "normal" (for lack of a better word) meal consisting of a salad followed by a steak and chips.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

#60

Vegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.

I try to eat a vegan meal at least a couple of times a week and vegetarian usually once a day. If semi-vegetarian is off limits, what am I?

Just someone who does not eat meat every day...
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