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Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by tobr »

sniuff wrote: post #3
Kaibeezy wrote: post #2

Vegan +388% Vegetarian +136% Fish 'n' chips +1% Vegans are 1.16% of the UK population

You don't have to be vegan to eat vegan food.

Bingo. I think this is a virtuous cycle.

Even if only a small percentage of people are vegans, you only need one vegan in a group of people to pick a place that offers vegan food. Vegan food is also a safe bet for the larger group of vegetarians. That means more places want to offer some good vegan options, which in turn makes more people try vegan food, and makes it easier to be a vegan.

I’m not a vegan nor a vegetarian, but I often find myself ordering vegan dishes because they seem more healthy for myself and the environment. There are so many types of food these days where vegan is not a compromise.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by motohagiography »

sniuff wrote: post #3
Kaibeezy wrote: post #2

Vegan +388% Vegetarian +136% Fish 'n' chips +1% Vegans are 1.16% of the UK population

You don't have to be vegan to eat vegan food.

"The most intolerant wins," dynamic may explain much of it. The availability of vegan food may have grown because it is a complimentary good which lets groups that include vegans eat there. Previously, groups that included vegans either ended up in vegan restaurants, or didn't eat together at all. Other purity urges could seem to have the same property.

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Post by Kaibeezy »

sniuff wrote: post #3
Kaibeezy wrote: post #2

Vegan +388% Vegetarian +136% Fish 'n' chips +1% Vegans are 1.16% of the UK population

You don't have to be vegan to eat vegan food.

True. I'll guess (can't access the original report) that it's something like "expressly designated vegan version of main course items".

For example, this from the Guardian: ... the owner of I Am Doner, a pair of kebab shops in Leeds and Harrogate, said his vegan kebab routinely outsold chicken, halloumi and falafel. Made from seitan, a meat substitute derived from wheat gluten, the “voner” kebab sometimes outsells the lamb alternative too.

That said, wouldn't falafel be vegan? Clearly, precision is evolving here.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by strict9 »

After 15 years of not eating meat, the past 1-2 years have been a golden era of vegetarian options in the grocery store, restaurants, and fast food.

Based on anecdotes and my social circles, the number of people completely avoiding meat hasn't changed. But omnivores adopting a semi-veg lifestyle has increased.

If I had to pick one thing, I'd say environmental concerns are the main reason my omnivore friends and colleagues are eating less meat.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by Kaibeezy »

yifanl wrote: post #9
52-6F-62 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So are Fish'n Chips apparently

I mean, growth rate tells you nothing of the total percent of orders.

Right. I looked for that info. Maybe I'll look again. Watch this space.

OK, found the British Takeaway Campaign 2017 report, https://jeweb-11431-s3.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/applicatio... - It's a pretty detailed and interesting report, but for everything in there it doesn't provide this data point. Overall, it does mention: Spending on takeaway grew to £9.9 billion in 2016, up more than a third (34%) since 2009 (£7.4 billion).

Still looking for the rankings / market share... OK, here's that, from the Mirror of all places, but referencing a 2017 report by Paymentsense, which tracks payments.

The top 10 takeaways:

  Chinese - 35 per cent
  Indian - 24 per cent
  Pizza - 13 per cent
  Fish and Chips - 7 per cent
  English - 4 per cent
  Italian - 4 per cent
  Burgers - 3 per cent
  Thai - 2 per cent
  Mexican - 1 per cent
  Turkish - 1 per cent

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by coldtea »

tobr wrote: post #11
sniuff wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to be vegan to eat vegan food.

Bingo. I think this is a virtuous cycle. Even if only a small percentage of people are vegans, you only need one vegan in a group of people to pick a place that offers vegan food. Vegan food is also a safe bet for the larger group of vegetarians. That means more places want to offer some good vegan options, which in turn makes more people try vegan food, and makes it easier to be a vegan. I’m not a vegan nor a vegeta…

>Even if only a small percentage of people are vegans, you only need one vegan in a group of people to pick a place that offers vegan food.

Or you can just ostracize them. Saves lots of emotional turmoil in the long run, as the vegan friend telling everybody about their dietary choices quickly takes its toll on adults...

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Post by emmp »

jbob2000 wrote: post #5
sniuff wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to be vegan to eat vegan food.

If I eat an apple, am I eating vegan food? If you call anything that isn't carnivore food as "vegan" food, then you're labelling like 90% of our food as "vegan". That's obviously ridiculous, so I think it's more accurate to call food "vegan" when it's being eaten by someone who is respecting vegan principles. What I mean to say is that I think "vegan food" is defined by the eater, not the makeup of the food. Edit: I…

It sure is. I wouldn't call it a satisfying meal though. It's not particularly meaningful to anyone to say that an apple on a restaurant menu is vegan (if such a restaurant even exists)

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by tekkk »

jbob2000 wrote: post #5
sniuff wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to be vegan to eat vegan food.

If I eat an apple, am I eating vegan food? If you call anything that isn't carnivore food as "vegan" food, then you're labelling like 90% of our food as "vegan". That's obviously ridiculous, so I think it's more accurate to call food "vegan" when it's being eaten by someone who is respecting vegan principles. What I mean to say is that I think "vegan food" is defined by the eater, not the makeup of the food. Edit: I…

So if a carnivore orders vegan food at restaurant, it stops being vegan? Well does that make sense?

In my opinion if restaurant offers only apples as the "vegan option" i think it's correct to call it vegan food. But since i guess vegan is not well defined property of food, as it's more commonly used to describe the people practising veganism, i'd draw the line in "food served or prepared that adheres vegan principles".

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