Ring has partnered with 400 police forces
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Ring has partnered with 400 police forces
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#2At the time of this posting, the link above this one was "China’s CCTV network took just 7 minutes to capture BBC reporter (2017)." I find that very ironic, especially because the comments inside are calling China a surveillance state.
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#3The headline neglects to mention that the system is opt in and per-incident, which I think is a critical detail. It's not like police have 24/7 involuntary access to everyone's video.
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#4Welcome to the private free-market Stasi.
You can try to opt out by not using Facebook or Ring cameras, but your friends and neighbors opt you in without your permission.
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#5So, a capitalist surveillance state.
Is it better if the Government forces surveillance, or if people are duped into buying it for themselves?
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#6The headline neglects to mention that the system is opt in and per-incident, which I think is a critical detail. It's not like police have 24/7 involuntary access to everyone's video.
Depends on what your problem with this arrangement is. IF you're worried about the use of your feed against your will, then yea this isn't a problem (you know, unless the police get a warrant and demand Nest turn it over to you)
If your issue is that your neighbors are now helping expand the surveillance state by self-installing cameras to allow the police visibility of your home, then it's still a problem. Technically this was always a possibility, but the ease of which the police can now search for and find these cameras to request access to is what makes this scary.
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#7The headline neglects to mention that the system is opt in and per-incident, which I think is a critical detail. It's not like police have 24/7 involuntary access to everyone's video.
Remember you don't own or control anything you upload to a third party.
From the ring privacy policy:
> We also may disclose personal information about you (1) if we are required to do so by law or legal process (such as a court order or subpoena); (2) in response to requests by government agencies, such as law enforcement authorities; (3) to establish, exercise or defend our legal rights; (4) when we believe disclosure is necessary or appropriate to prevent physical or other harm or financial loss; (5) in connection with an investigation of suspected or actual illegal activity; or (6) otherwise with your consent.
> We reserve the right to transfer any personal information we have about you in the event we sell or transfer all or a portion of our business or assets (including in the event of a merger, acquisition, joint venture, reorganization, divestiture, dissolution or liquidation).
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#8Welcome to the private free-market Stasi. You can try to opt out by not using Facebook or Ring cameras, but your friends and neighbors opt you in without your permission.
Indeed. Mass surveillance. Police brutality. Weapons confiscation. Seems to be a pattern.
Both sides of the political spectrum are enabling different portions of this pattern.
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#9The headline neglects to mention that the system is opt in and per-incident, which I think is a critical detail. It's not like police have 24/7 involuntary access to everyone's video.
>It's not like police have 24/7 involuntary access to everyone's video.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard this one since I started on the internet in '97. It's never true.
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#10If I put a camera outside of my house I want police to be able to access/react to what it’s captured. Our PD even has an app where you can register a camera with them (not direct access though)