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Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by nkingsy »

n42 wrote: post #163

What is humorous to me is that Google is hurting users who typically have the most influence over SaaS integrations at their company (managers) by taking away a tool that helped them deal with the part of their job most of them hate the most (hiring/recruiting). If it hasn't been obvious yet to managers watching this, Google's software is not a safe investment for you to make for your company. It is only a matter of…

Seems like these non billion user products could be sold off rather than killed. The cost to ready the software to live outside google would be worth it for the goodwill alone.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by n42 »

kayoone wrote: post #169
n42 wrote: post #163

What is humorous to me is that Google is hurting users who typically have the most influence over SaaS integrations at their company (managers) by taking away a tool that helped them deal with the part of their job most of them hate the most (hiring/recruiting). If it hasn't been obvious yet to managers watching this, Google's software is not a safe investment for you to make for your company. It is only a matter of…

Well to that extent, most other SaaS products which are affordable for SMBs are not a safe investment either, it's not that non-google companies/startup never shut down. Actually most SaaS startups fail.

I agree but I think it's a false dichotomy.

At least with a startup you can count on them to, well, try.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by suzzer99 »

ulfw wrote: post #145

I stopped using every Google product besides Search and Maps. Still have Photos but thats replaceable. Oh and Youtube, which is not replaceable. Haven’t used Gmail in a decade and no use for all the other stuff that no one knows if it will be around next year or not. Sorry to say but that what it has become.

I still have the old picasa executable so I can use it on new or reinstalled computers. It's great for browsing all the images and videos on your computer.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by RestlessMind »

At this point, I have started seeing Google as a miniature of contemporary SV (with all its good and bad stuff). Lots of random products thrown out to the user only to be cancelled in a few years? Check! Occasional massively successful (and actually useful) products? Check! Lip service and virtue signaling for fads du jour (eg. diversity)? Check! Actual behavior hinting towards prioritizing profits over all else (eg. lots of low-wage contractors in lieu of full time employees)? Check!

So it won't be a surprise if there are internal pitching sessions where Product Managers would be pitching their ideas to VPs just like YC demo days. Then get started with 2-3 engineers, put out the product, take it to some decent success level (eg. US-only, English-only, Android/iOS-only launch), pocket your promo, move on, rinse and repeat!!

The real question for me is is this all by design? Could it be that they want exactly this kind of setup? I won't be surprised if Google leadership is thinking this way...

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by xtracto »

aeternum wrote: post #5

Companies are going to avoid new Google offerings given this behavior. They marketed Hire by Google hard. Glad we didn't sign up and waste integration effort on this.

Oh I definitely will. I received heavy Hire marketing spam emails in the last 3 months.

It is very unprofessional to try to get companies to change their processes to depend in a product that you are closing.

I wont touch Google products with a 10ft pole for my company any time soon. It is a liability.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by luckydata »

rvz wrote: post #15

While this is splendid news of another fallen Google product, I'm afraid this time it is different. Google has a similar alternative to outgrow and to completely replace Hire which is called Byteboard [0]. [0] https://byteboard.dev/

that's an assessment tool, not an applicant tracker as far as I can see. Not the same thing at all.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by tempay »

nkingsy wrote: post #171
n42 wrote: post #163

What is humorous to me is that Google is hurting users who typically have the most influence over SaaS integrations at their company (managers) by taking away a tool that helped them deal with the part of their job most of them hate the most (hiring/recruiting). If it hasn't been obvious yet to managers watching this, Google's software is not a safe investment for you to make for your company. It is only a matter of…

Seems like these non billion user products could be sold off rather than killed. The cost to ready the software to live outside google would be worth it for the goodwill alone.

Would this actually be practical? From what little I know about google infrastructure everything is dependent on their in house tooling and spinning projects off is a massive amount of work.

Re: Sunsetting Hire

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Post by xmprt »

Dwolb wrote: post #140

Hire user here. IMO the product was functional (and cheap relative to the market) but not good. There were a lot of UX quirks that made it feel like an outside consultancy slapped some “Material” design on a pre-built app and called it a day. Really I would’ve liked to see a product like this be a meta-layer on top of GSuite productivity tools. ie Interview feedback forms should be a Forms form, the job board should…

> From a strategic standpoint I had no idea why they pursued this particular product

A manager wanted a promotion

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