Mainlanders don't all view Hong Kong the same way
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Mainlanders don't all view Hong Kong the same way
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Re: Mainlanders don't all view Hong Kong the same way
#2Without all the facts, mainlanders will never be in a clear position to make a proper decision. That's how the system is designed.
Re: Mainlanders don't all view Hong Kong the same way
#3Without all the facts, mainlanders will never be in a clear position to make a proper decision. That's how the system is designed.
Isn't this exactly the point of view that the article is arguing against?
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#4Does it matter what the mainlanders think? It's the communist party that controls China, not the general public.
Re: Mainlanders don't all view Hong Kong the same way
#5Does it matter what the mainlanders think? It's the communist party that controls China, not the general public.
A government without the support of its people generally gets removed by the people.
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#6Does it matter what the mainlanders think? It's the communist party that controls China, not the general public.
A government without the support of its people generally gets removed by the people.
That's right. The Chinese government and the 90 million Party members are drawn from the people. It's easy to dismiss all of them if that makes someone comfortable, but reality is rather more complicated than either "China is full of Communist drones, all of them" and "Government and people are on completely opposite sides one oppressing the other." It's a symbiotic and pragmatic relationship.
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#7Without all the facts, mainlanders will never be in a clear position to make a proper decision. That's how the system is designed.
To be fair, even with the facts I doubt the average person would ever be well-informed enough to make a proper decision. Governing should be a full time job done by professionals. Imagine if Apple were run by its users...
Re: Mainlanders don't all view Hong Kong the same way
#8Without all the facts, mainlanders will never be in a clear position to make a proper decision. That's how the system is designed.
To be fair, even with the facts I doubt the average person would ever be well-informed enough to make a proper decision. Governing should be a full time job done by professionals. Imagine if Apple were run by its users...
To be fair, even with all the facts and being well-informed, I doubt a mainlander would risk all the trouble
they'd get into for supporting HK.
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#9Just an anecdote. I went to Beijing to watch the Olympics while I was in high school. During a volleyball game, I sat next to a local Chinese boy about my age and started talking with him.
Apparently, at some Chinese schools, they give all of the students an English name. Kind of like how American schools give you a Spanish name for Spanish class. His name was Adolf. I asked him if he knew any other famous Adolf's. Of course, he did.
I asked him about why the Chinese cheer so fervently against the Americans, even when they're not playing the Chinese. He said it was because Americans were friends with the Japanese. To play devil's advocate, I told him that the Americans fought the Japanese in WW2, significantly helping China, and dropped nukes on the Japanese. He told me it wasn't enough, the US should've eliminated Japan from the map.
I don't think my sample size is representative but I think it's a warning of how strong nationalism can be. In the US, we have relatively free flows of information and we still have a dangerous nationalist movement. I imagine it's much stronger in China where the government actively encourages it.
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#10Since I can read Chinese, I've been reading news coverage as well as opinions from both the English-speaking and the Chinese-speaking media. It is quite depressing to find that both sides are obviously biased. The Chinese news would emphasize isolated incidents of violence by the protesters during the protests, pontificate on it and publish op-eds analyzing the cause of the protests ranging from the failed economy of Hong Kong to the profound corruption of its youth. The English side of course would illustrate the use of tear gas and facial recognition technology by the police and paint the protestors as victims of an unjust and unsympathetic government whose independence and autonomy is chipped away little by little. Opinions aside, even just for the facts I'd like to think there's truth in both, but it really depressing that neither really wants to report the truth and the whole truth.