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Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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Kind of ironic because I can't find any RSS feed linked on this site (apart from in the blog post itself). Not even my RSS reader picks up that he even has a RSS feed. Bit odd to be commenting on others not having RSS on their site if his own site doesn't properly support it either.

Exactly! I wonder if this is the reason behind them not being able to find a lot of the RSS feeds originally.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#182

I completely agree with this sentiment. Mastodon, or whatever, is fine but RSS is the backbone of blogging. It always annoys me when sites request permissions to send me notifications - hey idiots, if I like your site I'll subscribe using your RSS feed and read at my pleasure. You don't have one? Bye then. In my perfect world browsers have RSS support built in and aggregators like Facebook would allow RSS feeds to be…

I have heard it said that normal people don't use RSS but many power users still do. I'm now on Netnewswire 5: https://nnw.ranchero.com/ and write a blog: http://jakeseliger.com that includes a lot of link posts. I still use RSS for all the original reasons, even if most of my friends look puzzled by the acronym "RSS." RSS still solves the "too many sites, too little time" problem extremely well, especially for occas…

Has NNW fixed the problem where the cache grows to several dozen gigs? If you're not sure, you may want to check to see how large your cache is.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#183
post #169
post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet Pocket is a core part of Firefox instead of an extension.

That's because Mozilla literally owns Pocket, and sure, it's also perfect for an extension. So you can see why they might be willing to take on that maintenance burden for an uptick in usage. And I'm not sure how that invalidates anything I said above, or really is of any relevance at all.

The relevance is that you said

> Nobody did use them though. They belong in an extension, it's the perfect use case. [...] every single unused line of code, let alone an entire feature, adds a maintenance, security, documentation and testing burden.

And the same holds true for Pocket.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#184
post #161
post #58

Having struggled with RSS in the past, I will give a few reasons of why I ended up removing RSS from my blog: 1. RSS traffic trickled down to almost nothing. Hardly anyone uses RSS any more as a daily reader^1. 2. Spammers were using my RSS feed to wholesale copy the content from my blog. Identical copies of my blog went up in several different locations, each with their own copy of ads from the scammers. Some of the…

> Identical copies of my blog went up in several different locations, each with their own copy of ads from the scammers. Tangent but: Does google have any official way to combat this? It seems like an easy enough problem to solve. As the content-creator, you could submit your content first to some kind of registry, so that google could identify you as the true author. Does anything like this exist? If not, why not?

It seems like this could be open to abuse. Not all content-creators will register their content, so find some unregistered content to copy, and then register it yourself.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#185

RSS seems to have died off as social networks decided that they wanted to capture the users and vertically integrate. RSS turns them into commodities, and that's the opposite of what they want. Plus it's difficult to monetize an RSS feed.

I subscribe to a bunch of webcomics via RSS, and a few have changed over the years from embedding the comic into the feed to just having the feed be a link to the comic page so that they can still get some ad impressions. I also subscribe to email newsletters that have sponsored links/blurbs in their content, and I'm sure that one could monetize RSS content similarly.

I don't know where exactly xkcd lands on the web comic popularity scale, but let's be conservative and say Top 3. The xkcd RSS feed embeds the image (and alt text) into posts. That is very clearly a deliberate decision. The comics themselves are also CC-licensed.

I feel like Randall Munroe is doing well for himself. The math is probably different for smaller players.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are currently right, but that's probably ending soon as Apple looks to fund their own exclusive podcasts too [1]. I hope podcasters and their cooperatives/companies can resist the siren call. [1] https://venturebeat.com/2019/07/16/apple-will-reportedly-fun...

I would be okay with that if Apple introduced a standard in the RSS feed that allowed subscription, paid for podcasts that worked across apps. I’m all for a business model that lets me give companies money and they give me stuff as opposed to advertising.

FWIW, Giant Bomb (and I assume other sites) have premium podcasts that you can only access if you are a paid member[1], and you just subscribe using:

" rel="nofollow">https://www.giantbomb.com/podcast-xml/premiumbombcast?api_ke... (you just copy it from the RSS button on their site)

(previously it was https://username:password@www.giantbomb.com/podcast-xml/prem...)

Seems to work across most apps. I don't see why it would be that hard to build a standard around something similar.

[1] primarily ad-free versions of their main podcasts, but they also have premium-exclusive podcasts

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#187

I completely agree with this sentiment. Mastodon, or whatever, is fine but RSS is the backbone of blogging. It always annoys me when sites request permissions to send me notifications - hey idiots, if I like your site I'll subscribe using your RSS feed and read at my pleasure. You don't have one? Bye then. In my perfect world browsers have RSS support built in and aggregators like Facebook would allow RSS feeds to be…

Is there a way to auto-reject "show you notifications"? I don't ever see myself saying "Allow" to that pop-up.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#188

I completely agree with this sentiment. Mastodon, or whatever, is fine but RSS is the backbone of blogging. It always annoys me when sites request permissions to send me notifications - hey idiots, if I like your site I'll subscribe using your RSS feed and read at my pleasure. You don't have one? Bye then. In my perfect world browsers have RSS support built in and aggregators like Facebook would allow RSS feeds to be…

Is there a way to auto-reject "show you notifications"? I don't ever see myself saying "Allow" to that pop-up.

Firefox has the option to "block new requests asking to allow notifications". Just check under Preferences > Privacy & Security > Permissions.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

#189

I completely agree with this sentiment. Mastodon, or whatever, is fine but RSS is the backbone of blogging. It always annoys me when sites request permissions to send me notifications - hey idiots, if I like your site I'll subscribe using your RSS feed and read at my pleasure. You don't have one? Bye then. In my perfect world browsers have RSS support built in and aggregators like Facebook would allow RSS feeds to be…

Is there a way to auto-reject "show you notifications"? I don't ever see myself saying "Allow" to that pop-up.

I don’t know about other browsers but you can turn that off inside Firefox‘s privacy settings.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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post #183
post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because Mozilla literally owns Pocket, and sure, it's also perfect for an extension. So you can see why they might be willing to take on that maintenance burden for an uptick in usage. And I'm not sure how that invalidates anything I said above, or really is of any relevance at all.

The relevance is that you said > Nobody did use them though. They belong in an extension, it's the perfect use case. [...] every single unused line of code, let alone an entire feature, adds a maintenance, security, documentation and testing burden. And the same holds true for Pocket.

It's not the same thing. At all.

Pocket is used by people and is a feature Mozilla want to prominently integrate with Firefox. This is due to the financial gains they directly get when someone signs up for Pocket premium.

It's not an unused, dusty feature that's adding a burden to the platform and is a net time + money sink. It's something that makes them money.

As I said, in the comment you just replied to, even if nobody did use pocket then this would be a burden they are willing to take. So, comparing RSS feeds to pocket on the fact that it can be implemented as an extension alone is a nonsensical point.

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