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Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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> In my perfect world browsers have RSS support built in and aggregators like Facebook would allow RSS feeds to be published in timelines. We had this too...Firefox Live Bookmarks, yanked away because their metrics said no one used them...forgetting the kind of person who is techie enough to use RSS feeds is probably techie enough to turn off telemetry :/ I use them to this day in Waterfox, tried the Livemarks addon…

Nobody did use them though. They belong in an extension, it's the perfect use case. Pick any of the hundreds. Like this great one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/awesome-rss/ Also why would you use Waterfox. It's like Firefox ESR, with a few changed settings and much slower security updates.

Why - they work fine, they dont change, they dont add a burden to the existing product?

Taking something that works out of your product doesnt ever make people happy, and its never "the perfect use case" to remove features that work.

Its a "well that's ok that we wont take this on anymore and let those users manage their own problem" use case.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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post #143
post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody did use them though. They belong in an extension, it's the perfect use case. Pick any of the hundreds. Like this great one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/awesome-rss/ Also why would you use Waterfox. It's like Firefox ESR, with a few changed settings and much slower security updates.

Why - they work fine, they dont change, they dont add a burden to the existing product? Taking something that works out of your product doesnt ever make people happy, and its never "the perfect use case" to remove features that work. Its a "well that's ok that we wont take this on anymore and let those users manage their own problem" use case.

> they dont add a burden to the existing product?

Of course scope creep adds a burden. It's one more thing Mozilla developers have to tend to.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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post #143
post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody did use them though. They belong in an extension, it's the perfect use case. Pick any of the hundreds. Like this great one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/awesome-rss/ Also why would you use Waterfox. It's like Firefox ESR, with a few changed settings and much slower security updates.

Why - they work fine, they dont change, they dont add a burden to the existing product? Taking something that works out of your product doesnt ever make people happy, and its never "the perfect use case" to remove features that work. Its a "well that's ok that we wont take this on anymore and let those users manage their own problem" use case.

> they dont add a burden to the existing product?

I assume you work in tech, maybe even as a developer. So you know full well that every single unused line of code, let alone an entire feature, adds a maintenance, security, documentation and testing burden.

> and its never "the perfect use case" to remove features that work.

It absolutely is, if it makes those features better and gives them a focused place to develop outside of the core browser.

If you're so upset about it literally go and press one big blue "Add to firefox" button and have all the previous features, and more, back in under 10 seconds.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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Widespread RSS support is crucial to pushing the open web forward and allowing the ecosystem to compete with mainstream social networks. RSS isn’t perfect and can be fairly technical but the majority of the issues with it can be mitigated with tooling. Regular people can use RSS; Podcasts have proven this. One thing feeds don’t have is an ITunes style directory. I run Pine.blog, a Twitter-like, easy to use Feed Reade…

> RSS isn’t perfect and can be fairly technical but the majority of the issues with it can be mitigated with tooling Or by using Atom instead of RSS! Atom is very well supported too. Actually, we sometimes say "RSS" to refer to a feed whenever it is RSS or Atom.

I typically say “feed” since JSON Feed, Atom, and more fit into that category.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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What the heck is a good free or paid RSS reader these days? I paid for Reeder, and a few months later they discontinued support.

If you're on a Mac, NetNewsWire just released a new version after many years. Plus, it's open source.

NetNewsWire is a wonderful piece of software. I remember it being a part of my daily routine back in 2005ish but then it got bought and bought again and I couldn't afford the price of it (thanks Great Recession!) so I stopped using it. It has been graciously returned to the hands of Brent Simmons, its original developer, who has himself graciously made it Open Source and as fantastic as it ever was.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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Having struggled with RSS in the past, I will give a few reasons of why I ended up removing RSS from my blog: 1. RSS traffic trickled down to almost nothing. Hardly anyone uses RSS any more as a daily reader^1. 2. Spammers were using my RSS feed to wholesale copy the content from my blog. Identical copies of my blog went up in several different locations, each with their own copy of ads from the scammers. Some of the…

To address #3, provide only the title and a very brief excerpt in your feed with a link to the full monetized post.

This solves #2 as well, to the extent that copying your content wholesale becomes almost as hard as it would have been had you not had an RSS feed in the first place.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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RSS is dead... long since dead. There are a myriad of reasons why it died. 1. People don't want you to use RSS. They want you to visit their site so they make money from ads. 2. Only a small percentage of users care about RSS. 3. DRY (don't repeat yourself) principle. The RSS feed often breaks an no one really knows about it. Source: Me... I was one of the inventors of RSS and run an feed SaaS platform which only has…

RSS is “dead” as far as users, but who cares?

Every site I frequent has an RSS feed - even Reddit. As long as content producers support it, it’s not a problem.

Re: Please Add RSS Support to Your Site

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Speaking of RSS feed links, shame on Apple for hijacking feed links on iOS. They open Apple News but just generate a dialog that says "This content is not available on Apple News"

iOS these days has a major problem of allowing webpages to redirect automatically to the app or worse, to the App Store. Every now and again I have to fight Amazon to let me open a link in Safari instead of the Amazon app. Generally it's because I cannot purchase the item inside of the app (digital content like movies and Kindle books), but they still automatically open the app and make me do a dance to get it in Saf…

Why have the apps installed at all? There is nothing I can do in the apps that I can’t do on the websites. Usually the apps are worse.
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