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Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by human20190310 »

zelon88 wrote: post #19

I'm really into home Cloud stuff. This answers none of my questions. 1) Where will my files be stored? 2) Does Duple store a copy? 3) What does Duple do with my meta data? What do they do with usage stats? 4) Does Duple have any third party contracts or contractors with access to my data? 5) How does putting Duple software on an RPI make my files available from anywhere? How do you enable access to my device from any…

What is the purpose of having "the cloud" in your home at all? To me "the cloud's" primary value is that it is running off-site, in an environment that capably and regularly deals with broken equipment. If my work is backed up in Google/Dropbox's data center, I don't have to worry about it if my house gets flooded.

Having the cloud in your house, running on whatever stuff is laying around, just seems one small step removed from just keeping everything on your laptop and hoping it doesn't break.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by Aperocky »

phil248 wrote: post #10
dperfect wrote: post #7

> No server needed. No expensive hardware required... You can use your Router, NAS, Raspberry Pi, Smart TV. So... it turns those things into servers then (many of which already run servers by default)? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but a device running server software is still a server, even if it isn't dedicated to only that task.

Reminds me the ridiculous "no software" campaign by Salesforce.

LMAO, now I need to hear about it.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by acomjean »

milad_nazari wrote: post #6

tl;dr: It's an easier to install and use Nextcloud alternative, with open source components (to be released in the future) but closed source core.

I thought of nextcloud. Seems very similar:

For those unfamiliar nextcloud is kinda an open source Dropbox.

https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nextcloud-13-how-get-st...

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by Aperocky »

dperfect wrote: post #7

> No server needed. No expensive hardware required... You can use your Router, NAS, Raspberry Pi, Smart TV. So... it turns those things into servers then (many of which already run servers by default)? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but a device running server software is still a server, even if it isn't dedicated to only that task.

Every computer can be a server and every server is a computer. The only difference is on a layman's mind. Just because you're interfacing with the computer through a screen instead of a network connection doesn't mean the backend service/OS calls changed a bit.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by dragonwriter »

magashna wrote: post #22
dperfect wrote: post #7

> No server needed. No expensive hardware required... You can use your Router, NAS, Raspberry Pi, Smart TV. So... it turns those things into servers then (many of which already run servers by default)? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but a device running server software is still a server, even if it isn't dedicated to only that task.

Cloud = servers someone else has and mostly maintains for you Cloud...at home? This is a dumb headline. The definition of "server" has gone from big bulky slabs of bare metal to include smaller things like a RPi.

> Cloud = servers someone else has and mostly maintains for you

No, ”cloud = on-demand provisioned server resources”; that was what distinguished cloud computing from pre-existing remote-leased or on-premises resources. “Private cloud” (usually, on-premises of the user) has been a thing since very early in cloud computing, and “at home” has been plausible for even fairly casual users at least since Ubuntu 9.04 bundled Eucalyptus.

But this service is just abusing “cloud” to mean “SaaS”, I think (in that it's a demo of a paid SaaS product that incorporates your hardware.)

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by macspoofing »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #27
swiley wrote: post #9

>How does it work? >Just turn it on! That’s not an explanation of how it works, that’s an explanation of how to use it. (I mean, you just know something stupid like that is coming the moment you see a loading progress bar for a static page. It’s not surprising, just disappointing.)

I mean, we need this sort of technology to take hold with non-technical users, so I applaud it from that aspect... but us technical users want to know what's actually happening here. And the fact that the source is "coming soon" doesn't help either. Oh, here's what we're looking for: https://doc.duple.io/faq/

>we need this sort of technology to take hold with non-technical users,

I'm pretty sure non-technical users are not looking for a private cloud.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by heyoni »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #27
swiley wrote: post #9

>How does it work? >Just turn it on! That’s not an explanation of how it works, that’s an explanation of how to use it. (I mean, you just know something stupid like that is coming the moment you see a loading progress bar for a static page. It’s not surprising, just disappointing.)

I mean, we need this sort of technology to take hold with non-technical users, so I applaud it from that aspect... but us technical users want to know what's actually happening here. And the fact that the source is "coming soon" doesn't help either. Oh, here's what we're looking for: https://doc.duple.io/faq/

Thanks for that. That intro was anemic, even for laypeople.

Sounds like you still need a server unless you use local storage.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

macspoofing wrote: post #37
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, we need this sort of technology to take hold with non-technical users, so I applaud it from that aspect... but us technical users want to know what's actually happening here. And the fact that the source is "coming soon" doesn't help either. Oh, here's what we're looking for: https://doc.duple.io/faq/

>we need this sort of technology to take hold with non-technical users, I'm pretty sure non-technical users are not looking for a private cloud.

Are you sure? Eventually people are going to realize that the SaaS companies have sold them out. And they may not understand what a private cloud is, but that's what they're going to want: The convenience they're accustomed to in a device only they control which can't be shut down or taken away from them.

Re: Show HN: Duple – Private cloud at home

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

They have some fairly hefty competition:

https://www.synology.com/en-us/dsm/feature/drive

https://www.drobo.com/homeoffice/#file

I'm pretty sure that most NAS vendors have some variation on "Home Cloud."

I think most folks that want to set something like this up, will want a turnkey solution.

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