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No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers

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Re: No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bad for the environment as well for trans-pacific shipping to be cheaper

Aren't ocean vessels one of the most efficient forms of transportation in existence?

Perhaps, but the price of fuel already incentives shippers to use less of it. It might be better mpg to ship by sea but by shipping such a huge distance much of that may be negated

Re: No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers

#82

So is drop shipping from China now dead? A major benefit of drop shipping from China was the pretty much $1 shipping for almost any item via ePacket. Obviously the products are still cheaper, but with a 25% tariff on most goods, and what I can only assume will be a close to DHL price for shipping, a t-shirt drop shipped from China will probably cost more than one made and shipped domestically. To continue to be compe…

>So is drop shipping from China now dead? Probably. This is going to drop a lot of sellers off of Amazon and eBay, and likely have major effects on independent small business dollar/99c stores.

Oh great, now I get to buy the same item from Walmart at 20x the price. If I can even find the one I need.

Re: No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers

#84
post #23

Can someone shed light on the subsidy structure behing the current model, are shipments from China being subsidized by shipments from other countries or is there government money involved ? In any case this kind of subsidy is not necessarily bad for developing countries, and it was probably instrumental in China's phenomenal economic growth, but it is now in the conquering superpower category, it's time it loses this…

It's not really a subsidy so much as an underpayment by the foreign goverments[1]. There is no tax money involved, and all the subsidizing comes from the increased revenue from raising domestic shipping costs.

The UPU has been around for decades, but it's only been since 2010 that the USPS has formalized the process with the "ePacket" shipping.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/09/12/...

Re: No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers

#86
post #45

This is one way to mitigate knock off products from China. If the shipping costs come up to the norm, they won't always (if ever) be the cheapest product so the real one will win out more often. Various products will have different tipping points where it just doesn't make sense to ship and/or they aren't getting enough sales to justify it. Personally, I like it and it seems like everyone wins.. except people who und…

Rather a lot of name brand stuff is also getting shipped from China.

Yes, but it is being shipped in volume containers. That is both more efficient all around, and much easier for the customs inspectors to find and divert counterfeits than in waves of individually packaged items.

Re: No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers

#88

Anybody else notice that they said "September 31st"?

This is fine for an end date. Any duration should be specified as half-open, t₀ . This way it's clear that September, even its last day, is in the period and October is not.

Yes, but try codifying that and you won’t get far enough to make that comparison. E.g. mentally or on a computer, ‘Date.Parse(“2019-09-31”)’ is an error ;)

Re: No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't ocean vessels one of the most efficient forms of transportation in existence?

Not more efficient than trains. Environmentally, we'd all be better off if goods to the US were produced in Mexico and shipped into the US by train.

Yes more efficient than trains, though only by a factor of 2 to 3. 0.209 to 0.35 mJ/tkm for rail versus 0.11 for ocean freight. Domestic water freight (river barges) is 0.16.

Road freight is 1.3 to 2.4 and air freight is 6.9 to 10.5 waaaay worse than any of these.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_efficiency_in_transport

Re: No More Cheap Shipping for Chinese Sellers

#90

> This is great news for U.S. sellers, especially eBay sellers. Exactly the intended consequence. Why should US taxpayers subsidize shipping costs for products to come from China? It made no sense at all in today's economy unless the only thing you care about is paying less for your goods regardless of the consequences, which I don't think is a majority position of adults today.

The goal of the UPU was to have one rate for international shipping based on sending country vs. per destination pricing. Countries agreed to eat the costs. This produced things like the International Postal Coupon which are great.
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