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Keeping Tesla Roadsters Alive Is Serious Work

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Re: Keeping Tesla Roadsters Alive Is Serious Work

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Post by vonseel »

sergiosgc wrote: post #137
ptaipale wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really like my microwave oven that has just two controls: one dial for power (scale defrost - full power) and one for time (mechanical clock up to 30 min). It is not likely to break because there is no PCB with bad capacitors. It does not have a clock that I would need to adjust at every DST change, and it does not have an array of confusing buttons and controls. Everyone can use it, without reading the manual. And…

There is an "Apple" market for the first company that designs a simple microwave oven. The user interface on most of those things is atrocious. A beautiful oven with two dials would kill on the market. (maybe there is one, but I couldn't find one browsing on appliance stores)

_A beautiful oven with two dials would kill on the market. (maybe there is one, but I couldn't find one browsing on appliance stores)_

Aren't you commenting on a guy claiming to love his two dial microwave oven?

Re: Keeping Tesla Roadsters Alive Is Serious Work

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

sergiosgc wrote: post #137
ptaipale wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really like my microwave oven that has just two controls: one dial for power (scale defrost - full power) and one for time (mechanical clock up to 30 min). It is not likely to break because there is no PCB with bad capacitors. It does not have a clock that I would need to adjust at every DST change, and it does not have an array of confusing buttons and controls. Everyone can use it, without reading the manual. And…

There is an "Apple" market for the first company that designs a simple microwave oven. The user interface on most of those things is atrocious. A beautiful oven with two dials would kill on the market. (maybe there is one, but I couldn't find one browsing on appliance stores)

>A beautiful oven with two dials would kill on the market.

And it did, in the 1970s

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/1971rr4....

Re: Keeping Tesla Roadsters Alive Is Serious Work

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

sergiosgc wrote: post #137
ptaipale wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really like my microwave oven that has just two controls: one dial for power (scale defrost - full power) and one for time (mechanical clock up to 30 min). It is not likely to break because there is no PCB with bad capacitors. It does not have a clock that I would need to adjust at every DST change, and it does not have an array of confusing buttons and controls. Everyone can use it, without reading the manual. And…

There is an "Apple" market for the first company that designs a simple microwave oven. The user interface on most of those things is atrocious. A beautiful oven with two dials would kill on the market. (maybe there is one, but I couldn't find one browsing on appliance stores)

I had exactly what you described, an older model from LG with 2 digital knobs. It was amazingly intuitive and I loved it. Not sure if they make it anymore as now everything has to be touch to be cool in the showroom.

My parents bought new kitchen appliances from Bosch and I was shocked how bad the UX was with the combination of touch buttons, rotating dial and full color LCD display.

I just want to roast this chicken FFS! Why does it have to be a 12 step process?!

Re: Keeping Tesla Roadsters Alive Is Serious Work

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Post by lallysingh »

londons_explore wrote: post #126
icelancer wrote: post #120

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Lots of would-be buyers won't purchase until the supply lines and insane repair wait times are fixed. Source: I am one, as are many of my friends in Seattle.

It's s tricky issue to fix - often parts fail due to a bad design (eg. 1 part too weak). Everyone wants to buy that replacement part, leading to a shortage. At the same time, Tesla doesn't want to increase production of the faulty parts - in fact, they want to reduce production so they can redirect machines to making the new, better part. But it takes time to understand what was wrong and to design and test. Overall,…

Why not ship the new parts as replacements of the old?

Re: Keeping Tesla Roadsters Alive Is Serious Work

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

Infernal wrote: post #71
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #58

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Can’t you just go to one of the dozens of windshield replacement businesses in your area? You drive it there and they plop in a new windshield for very reasonable rates. They will often even come to you to fix it.

I have wondered about this between my 2008 Honda and my 2019 Honda. The 2008, I have had the windshield replaced twice, no sweat, once due to a rock from the road and once due to a hailstone. On the 2019, there is a suite of sensors behind the rearview mirror that (I presume) handle lane detection and object avoidance (emergency braking) duties. I don't know what assumptions those sensors (or the software behind them…

>I don't know what assumptions those sensors (or the software behind them) might make about the properties of the glass they're looking through, but I wouldn't blindly have the shop on the corner replace the 2019 windshield like I would on my 2008.

Figuring that stuff out is the glass manufacturer's job. The dealer doesn't have some glass guy who's magically better than the glass shop's glass guy. Many smaller dealers actually sub out glass (along with body work, frame pulling and other things they aren't big enough for it to be worth the overhead to do in house).

Re: Keeping Tesla Roadsters Alive Is Serious Work

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Post by jeffreygoesto »

sergiosgc wrote: post #137
ptaipale wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really like my microwave oven that has just two controls: one dial for power (scale defrost - full power) and one for time (mechanical clock up to 30 min). It is not likely to break because there is no PCB with bad capacitors. It does not have a clock that I would need to adjust at every DST change, and it does not have an array of confusing buttons and controls. Everyone can use it, without reading the manual. And…

There is an "Apple" market for the first company that designs a simple microwave oven. The user interface on most of those things is atrocious. A beautiful oven with two dials would kill on the market. (maybe there is one, but I couldn't find one browsing on appliance stores)

ACK. happy with this one since 2013: https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Samsung-Microwa...

Re: Keeping Tesla Roadsters Alive Is Serious Work

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Post by navigatesol »

ianai wrote: post #36
jonknee wrote: post #24

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Parts are hard to come by for their mass market models too, it's crazy.

What are owners supposed to do? Are there any indications these cars fail so rarely?

>Are there any indications these cars fail so rarely?

It's less that they fail often, in the traditional sense. The problem is that they are poorly manufactured, and the flaws manifest themselves as major issues for owners eventually.

In theory, the cars should fail less than ICE, by virtue of having fewer mechanical parts.

What do owners do? Complain on Twitter and hope for the best.

Re: Keeping Tesla Roadsters Alive Is Serious Work

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Post by gambiting »

benrbray wrote: post #107
natch wrote: post #98

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People have a perception that third party parts are inferior. Maybe Toyota limits access to some OEM parts by others for whatever reason.

Maybe this is true, but for newer cars, installing third party parts or even having the car looked at by a third party will void the warranty. So at least during this early period, the incentives are such that you're better off taking the car to the dealership so you still have the warranty later when you really need it.

>>Maybe this is true, but for newer cars, installing third party parts or even having the car looked at by a third party will void the warranty.

Unless the law varies hugely where you live compared to the rest of the Western countries, that's just simply 100000% not true. You can do almost any modification to your car and it doesn't void the warranty, unless the manufacturer can show that the fault occured due to the modification being fitted(so no, a manufacturer cannot refuse engine repair because you used a 3rd party windscreen or fitted custom rims on the car, unless they can prove that either of those caused the engine damage).

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Post by heeen2 »

benj111 wrote: post #128
pjc50 wrote: post #123

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It's smartphone engineering: when it breaks, you're supposed to throw it away and buy a new one. /s

From one angle this isn't so unreasonable. If your car never breaks down, why fix it when it does. There are already plenty of sealed units in a car. If your 2nd gear went, you'd replace the whole box. Id be interested to know what proportion of phones actually break (except user imposed damage) before they reach the end of their useful lives, I would guess very few.

Phones would last much longer if you could swap the battery again
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