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Re: Useless Windows 10 Features

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Post by Nextgrid »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #135
duaoebg wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had no idea this was the case. This is awful. Microsoft got so much good will out of those free games and now they choose to nickel and dime people.

I'd love to know how much money they make out of this stuff, my guess is not very much at all.

I guess the ads in Solitaire may be less about making money off those ads themselves but more about reinforcing the idea that "ads are everywhere and that's OK" to get the masses used to ads (so they accept the other ads everywhere else).

Re: Useless Windows 10 Features

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Post by throwaway8941 »

input_sh wrote: post #199
cm2187 wrote: post #163

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Control panel items not showing in the start menu results anymore when you search is also in Win10 and it drives me crazy. It literally looks like the guys designing windows must be using a Mac themselves, or just aren’t computer guys. I just don’t get how things like than wouldn’t annoy them too. My guess is that decision making in large companies is so slow, so bureaucratic, that everyone has given up on shipping a…

> It literally looks like the guys designing windows must be using a Mac themselves, or just aren’t computer guys. Or maybe they're trying to kill the Control Panel all together and switch everyone to the new Settings app, but are aware that doing so immediately would lead to a lot of complaints? So they have both, while slowly nudging you towards using the Settings app so you wouldn't be too angry when you wake up o…

This. I think they removed at least half of the items from "Control Panel\All Control Panel Items" compared to Windows 7/8/first builds of 10. In a few years Control Panel will be removed altogether.

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Post by filleduchaos »

jplayer01 wrote: post #186
siempreb wrote: post #184

> Windows 10 has more built-in advertisements than Google’s Android and Chrome OS do. It's still hard to believe that after paying a few hundreds of dollars for a new OS you will be treated with advertisements, as if it were freeware.. I'll never buy that shit.

> It's still hard to believe that after paying a few hundreds of dollars for a new OS I haven't checked, but are the ads in the enterprise versions? Otherwise, I'd guess that the vast majority of home consumers have an OEM key that came with their laptop or PC (or upgraded from Win7), and they didn't pay hundreds of dollars for. While the price of Win10 is included in some way in the price of the device, it wouldn't…

> Otherwise, I'd guess that the vast majority of home consumers have an OEM key that came with their laptop or PC (or upgraded from Win7), and they didn't pay hundreds of dollars for.

They do pay for it, as you acknowledge in your next sentence. Most OEMs explicitly include the price of Windows in their device pricing (which is made clear if the product is customizable to the point of choosing Linux or no OS - that pretty much always drops the price).

Re: Useless Windows 10 Features

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Post by Draiken »

psv1 wrote: post #232
siempreb wrote: post #193

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> The real solution is for Microsoft to treat its customers with a bit more respect. This company (like most other companies) operates out of greed, and that doesn't go well with respect. They're just trying to milk as much as they can from you.

You can make a profit and treat your customers well.

I'd argue that's only valid if you're a small company.

Once you're a huge corporation with tons of stakeholders, it seems inevitable that you will compromise customers in favor of profits sooner or later.

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Post by worble »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #159
Bender wrote: post #2

I agree with this article, but I think it can be summed up as, "People need the option to buy the LTSB release of Windows 10". Microsoft refuses to sell it to consumers. It is an enterprise only option (unless that has recently changed and I am not aware of it). I have one windows 7 machine for playing WoW and it will stay on 7 until I can get the LTSB release of Windows 10 and the ability to turn off 100% of the tel…

"People need the option to buy the LTSB release of Windows 10" That's just fixing the symptoms rather than the cause. The real solution is for Microsoft to treat its customers with a bit more respect.

Why would they when people keep buying it regardless? Why would a company ever change when they're making more money than ever and the consumers don't care?

Re: Useless Windows 10 Features

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

input_sh wrote: post #199
cm2187 wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Control panel items not showing in the start menu results anymore when you search is also in Win10 and it drives me crazy. It literally looks like the guys designing windows must be using a Mac themselves, or just aren’t computer guys. I just don’t get how things like than wouldn’t annoy them too. My guess is that decision making in large companies is so slow, so bureaucratic, that everyone has given up on shipping a…

> It literally looks like the guys designing windows must be using a Mac themselves, or just aren’t computer guys. Or maybe they're trying to kill the Control Panel all together and switch everyone to the new Settings app, but are aware that doing so immediately would lead to a lot of complaints? So they have both, while slowly nudging you towards using the Settings app so you wouldn't be too angry when you wake up o…

I would mind it less if they would actually make the settings app feature complete!

Re: Useless Windows 10 Features

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Post by Nextgrid »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #233
AnonymousPlanet wrote: post #218

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That doesn't vindicate adding ads to an OS used for business. Apple is able not to do it so why not Microsoft? Desktop OS != Mobile OS Desktop OS != some f website

Of course it doesn't. The cancer of advertising didn't spread to Apple's OS yet. Doesn't mean it won't, though.

The ads in the iOS App Store search results are concerning. They may be the beginning of the end.

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Post by filleduchaos »

xeeeeeeeeeeenu wrote: post #112
philliphaydon wrote: post #74

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Huh, how is that 'dumb'? Resize a window and drag it to the top will increase total height of screen. Drag a window to the top and it maximizes. Drag to left to dock to left side. (repeat for right side) Drag to top left to dock to top left corner. (repeat for all corners) Win+Arrow (Up) to full screen. Win+Arrow (Down) to un-full screen. Down again to minimum. Win+Shift+Arrow (left/right) to change screen. Win+Arrow…

>On a mac you cannot even maximum a window properly Indeed, to actually maximize a window on macOS, you have to purchase a third party app (BetterSnapTool). I think it's hilarious.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this - my windows seem to maximize just fine

Re: Useless Windows 10 Features

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Post by projektfu »

hvidgaard wrote: post #191
projektfu wrote: post #19

How about all the ways windows goes out of its way to hide the home folder, and then is now generating multiple places it calls “Documents”, “Pictures”, etc so you’re never really sure where anything is?

As long as there is proper support for a virtual folder, I as a user don't care. I can have a unified view of local and cloud documents. As a developer I would settle for accurate and comprehensive documentation.

I think a user does care if they can’t easily know if a document is on the cloud. Like you’re at a conference where you discover your desktop wasn’t saving to the cloud for some reason. The interface is identical between cases.

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Post by Draiken »

kelnos wrote: post #219
zsrxx wrote: post #164

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It does not have Win32 or DirectX, for starters

Sure it does: wine. Whether or not it works (and works performantly enough) for what any given person needs it for is another matter, of course.

Honestly I think it's sad how much the community still underestimates gaming.

I tried using wine or even using Steam directly on Linux, but playing any game with 30-40% less performance is ridiculous.

If you really like games, Linux is unusable for anything big.

I've had to dual boot Windows for the last 10 years just to play a game without stuttering, lag, huge FPS drops, etc.

Nothing would make me happier than being able to only use Linux, but until the community takes gaming seriously, people are forced to use Windows.

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