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Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

telesilla wrote: post #103

I'm preparing a large dinner for an organisation at the moment and decided that we'd make the menu vegan/vegetarian (we use a wonderful Italian caterer, so flavour isn't going to be missed). When I mentioned it to some omnivore colleagues, they asked why and I shrugged and said "the Amazon is burning". They shrugged back and said, makes sense. It's not many years since I would have expected complaints at not catering…

Is their collective indifference indicative of actual indifference to meat or that they don't deem this a battle worth fighting?

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by acollins1331 »

tptacek wrote: post #104
acollins1331 wrote: post #86

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It's been setting the standard for shitty meat though. Try a Tyson breast and one from a local farm and you don't even need to taste it to know it's different.

I've invested money in a local butcher in Chicago and source pretty much all of my protein from another one closer to me. I'm familiar with the locavore argument and agree that the quality is higher. There are still higher levels of quality to be reached by sourcing heritage birds, and you can optimize for flavor even more by sourcing game birds. Where do you draw the line? I'd rather eat a local farm chicken than a…

The term "barely meat" as used in the parent was definitely talking about the ground beef you get at fast food restaraunts. Which has been shown in lots of cases to contain additives, notably taco bell etc. You brought up chicken because it's harder to call it barely meat, but fast food chicken is still shittier.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by zodiac »

ghaff wrote: post #102
adrianN wrote: post #68

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They will eventually stop selling beef burgers made from real cows. Lab grown meat will replace them. I don't know enough about the current state of lab grown meat to give an estimate for XY, but it seems inevitable to me.

Ground meat is almost certainly the lowest bar for substituting. I'd argue the artificial meat is already pretty close (although probably at a higher cost, at least at the low end). There are probably gourmet burgers that are still better--though high-end meat cuts are at least somewhat of a waste in a burger. Somewhat amusingly, I first had an Impossible Burger not knowing that it was not real "meat." I didn't find…

Impossible Burger isn't lab-grown meat

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by astura »

diyseguy wrote: post #81
tehlike wrote: post #17

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All of the fastfood chains based in united states have much better quality abroad.

A&W Rootbeer is much better in Canada - I think they use sugar instead of corn syrup - something - it's really good there

Strangely enough A&W in Canada is now a completely different company than A&W in the US. Their logos are even slightly different.

EDIT: I mean the restaurant chain, I'm not sure of the root beer itself.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by yters »

untog wrote: post #55
yters wrote: post #31

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Ah, exactly what I want as a consumer. Believing I'm purchasing one thing when reading the product name, and finding out it is something else entirely when reading the ingredients list (which I rarely do).

Do you have the same problem with almond milk? Veggie burger patties?

Less so. At least those names, though oxymorons, do contain the actual product being sold.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by tptacek »

acollins1331 wrote: post #122
tptacek wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've invested money in a local butcher in Chicago and source pretty much all of my protein from another one closer to me. I'm familiar with the locavore argument and agree that the quality is higher. There are still higher levels of quality to be reached by sourcing heritage birds, and you can optimize for flavor even more by sourcing game birds. Where do you draw the line? I'd rather eat a local farm chicken than a…

The term "barely meat" as used in the parent was definitely talking about the ground beef you get at fast food restaraunts. Which has been shown in lots of cases to contain additives, notably taco bell etc. You brought up chicken because it's harder to call it barely meat, but fast food chicken is still shittier.

"Shittier" how? Chick-Fil-A's fast-food chicken is likely better than the median supermarket chicken (it's all supposedly antibiotic-free now). I'd like to see a better grounded argument, one that doesn't depend entirely on the premise that "fast food meat must be shitty because we disdain fast food".

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by yters »

throwanem wrote: post #46
yters wrote: post #31

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Ah, exactly what I want as a consumer. Believing I'm purchasing one thing when reading the product name, and finding out it is something else entirely when reading the ingredients list (which I rarely do).

You're concerned enough about what you're feeding yourself to complain about what's on the label, but not concerned enough to find out what's on the label?

Yes, I'd prefer my products to be clearly labeled, but that's just a personal oddity, I know.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by acollins1331 »

tptacek wrote: post #127
acollins1331 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The term "barely meat" as used in the parent was definitely talking about the ground beef you get at fast food restaraunts. Which has been shown in lots of cases to contain additives, notably taco bell etc. You brought up chicken because it's harder to call it barely meat, but fast food chicken is still shittier.

"Shittier" how? Chick-Fil-A's fast-food chicken is likely better than the median supermarket chicken (it's all supposedly antibiotic-free now). I'd like to see a better grounded argument, one that doesn't depend entirely on the premise that "fast food meat must be shitty because we disdain fast food".

You literally agreed with me two comments ago that Tyson chicken is worse than locally (read not mass) produced chicken. Don't try to turn it around again just so you can win an imaginary argument I'm not trying to have.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by fromthestart »

telesilla wrote: post #103

I'm preparing a large dinner for an organisation at the moment and decided that we'd make the menu vegan/vegetarian (we use a wonderful Italian caterer, so flavour isn't going to be missed). When I mentioned it to some omnivore colleagues, they asked why and I shrugged and said "the Amazon is burning". They shrugged back and said, makes sense. It's not many years since I would have expected complaints at not catering…

>we use a wonderful Italian caterer, so flavour isn't going to be missed

A non meat dish is still going to taste like a non-meat dish. Perhaps your colleagues were just being polite and avoiding treading into politically charged territory after you brought up the Amazon.

Personally I'm a picky eater and vegan/vegetarian dishes simply do not compare to meat. I'm sure others feel similarly. Though for one meal I suppose it isn't a huge deal - but acting like it's just as good simply isn't true for the majority of people - that's your personal taste.

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