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Re: Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! I know there are many CRMs out there. I'm trying to build one that I enjoy using and that is specifically made for small businesses. This way I can remove a lot of the stuff I don't care about and still have a nice and efficient system that is easy to stay on top of :).

I'd echo the parent comment. I hope you can get some paying users to sign up. The first place I would spend money is on a top-notch copywriter. I really like some of the copy but it feels disjointed as a whole. When you say that it's for small businesses and it's really efficient and light, I think people will identify with that. As long as features keep getting added to platforms, we will always need a super lightwe…

Thank you :)!

Re: Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! I know there are many CRMs out there. I'm trying to build one that I enjoy using and that is specifically made for small businesses. This way I can remove a lot of the stuff I don't care about and still have a nice and efficient system that is easy to stay on top of :).

I'd echo the parent comment. I hope you can get some paying users to sign up. The first place I would spend money is on a top-notch copywriter. I really like some of the copy but it feels disjointed as a whole. When you say that it's for small businesses and it's really efficient and light, I think people will identify with that. As long as features keep getting added to platforms, we will always need a super lightwe…

At $49 per month with no free tier the author is setting themselves up for failure.

Get people on board with free product than offer value add. A CRM requires trust.. so spend money on the brand or give a free tier and build trust.

Re: Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd echo the parent comment. I hope you can get some paying users to sign up. The first place I would spend money is on a top-notch copywriter. I really like some of the copy but it feels disjointed as a whole. When you say that it's for small businesses and it's really efficient and light, I think people will identify with that. As long as features keep getting added to platforms, we will always need a super lightwe…

At $49 per month with no free tier the author is setting themselves up for failure. Get people on board with free product than offer value add. A CRM requires trust.. so spend money on the brand or give a free tier and build trust.

Free tier comes with A TON of support demands from people who many not ever become customers. That'd lead to failure a lot quicker. Seems better to have a a few paying customers who are invested in the product providing feedback than hundreds or thousands providing 'feedback' that will never lead to a conversion

Re: Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun

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A while ago I used Hubspot CRM for a bit. I think it's slow and quirky, and to me it's a big red flag how hard they make it to get the data out (or, well, 2 years ago at least).

But Hubspot gets one thing right that I never understood other CRMs can't do. If Hubspot sees an email from name@company.com, they automatically make a new contact for that name, and a new organization for that company (derived from the @company.com), enrich it all with available data (employee size etc), which I guess they get from some Clearbit-like data. This is super useful, because it means all relevant organization about a new lead who just reached out is just there. The only manual logging I ever have to do is eg log calls or write internal notes. No bookkeeping whatsoever.

Similarly, if I want to log someone I met at, say, a conference, I just enter their email address from their business card (or whatever) and -poof- the contact and organization are there. Maybe I'll add the phone number if they're oldschool like that, but that's it. All the otherfields are immediately in "good enough" mode.

A while later I tried Close.io, who advertise loudly in the blogosphere about how much other CRMs make you click and type, and I had to make every contact and organization by hand! How is that automation? I simply don't understand how any CRM in 2019 can ship with so much manual data entry. What am I missing? Is my use case such an edge case?

If you'd add stuff like this, then maybe I'd be interested in switching over. But having to manually maintain every single piece of data, when much information is publicly available from various sources, is just not worth my time.

And if you have this feature, I'd highlight it proudly on the website :D

To other HN'ers, if you have suggestions for CRMs that get this right, I'm interested.

Re: Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun

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Looks really nice but I wonder if you went too far with Basecamp's look. The brand colors look so similar that you could get the impression that it's a Basecamp product. It almost looks like you took their background color and changed it by the smallest amount possible just so it wasn't an exact match if you compared the hex colors.

The background colour also looks like this site, Hacker News.

Re: Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun

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Congrats on building this. It looks great. Two bits of feedback: I didn’t see any mention of an API. Comments indicate an uploader function, but to get into anything close to enterprise you will need an API yo manage the data. The API will need to be able to get data in and out. After that, larger customers will expect customizations. Big companies always want to customize the software.

Hey! Thanks for the feedback! There will be an api later on. I'm building this for small businesses, so I don't want to bother them with enterprise features they won't use :).

I think you may be underestimating the need for an API. We're a small company (17 employees) and we wouldn't consider it without an API.

Remember lots of systems generate leads/customers, so if you don't want to provide tools for all those various systems, you need to offer an API.

Also on your sign up page, there's a typo:

"Wobaka cost way less than lost deals" should be "Wobaka costs way less than lost deals"

Unless Wobaka is plural?

Re: Show HN: I made a CRM system to make sales fun

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I really like the site. How did you come up with 7 days as a trial period? Seems like it may take longer than a week for someone to really see the value. I could be totally wrong though.

I just picked a number. I want to offer a way to try it for free. However, My focus is to provide the best possible experience and support for paying customers, and I can't really do that if I'm supporting free users. If you need more time to evaluate, I can extend your trial :).
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