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How the Great Truth Dawned

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Re: How the Great Truth Dawned

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I will preface this comment by saying that I am sympathetic to the author's criticism of the Soviet system which he has inherited from Solzhenitsyn, but being sympathetic to the communist hypothesis myself, I feel like there are omissions in the article worth picking up on. The article reads, >The contrary view, held by ideologues and justice warriors generally, is that our group is good, and theirs is evil. “Evil pe…

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Re: How the Great Truth Dawned

#32

I will preface this comment by saying that I am sympathetic to the author's criticism of the Soviet system which he has inherited from Solzhenitsyn, but being sympathetic to the communist hypothesis myself, I feel like there are omissions in the article worth picking up on. The article reads, >The contrary view, held by ideologues and justice warriors generally, is that our group is good, and theirs is evil. “Evil pe…

Interesting that you can mentally step over the literal industrial scale evil done on people in the name of communism and make an argument for it from an academic standpoint. Does it really matter at what fork in the road led to the atrocities of Mao, Pol Pot, and Stalin if they all came from the same starting point. People deserve to be free to make their own life outside of government interference which may or may not be benevolent, that is the foundation of America and is the system most proven to provide the most benefit to people without discrimination or coercion. Anything else is just going down the same dead end.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-years-of-communismand-100-m...

Re: How the Great Truth Dawned

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post #6

What a fantastic read. The sad truth is that all countries that have descended into authoritarianism, whatever their preferred political ideology, result in mass murder. Such pain and suffering caused by such misguided beliefs. Just let people be free! Stop controlling other people.

Sure, but can you even count the people killed under capitalism?

Please keep ideological tit-for-tats somewhere other than this site.

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Re: How the Great Truth Dawned

#35

I will preface this comment by saying that I am sympathetic to the author's criticism of the Soviet system which he has inherited from Solzhenitsyn, but being sympathetic to the communist hypothesis myself, I feel like there are omissions in the article worth picking up on. The article reads, >The contrary view, held by ideologues and justice warriors generally, is that our group is good, and theirs is evil. “Evil pe…

Interesting that you can mentally step over the literal industrial scale evil done on people in the name of communism and make an argument for it from an academic standpoint. Does it really matter at what fork in the road led to the atrocities of Mao, Pol Pot, and Stalin if they all came from the same starting point. People deserve to be free to make their own life outside of government interference which may or may…

Please don't take HN threads into generic ideological flamewar. The GP may have been tediously ideological but at least it wasn't generic.

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Re: How the Great Truth Dawned

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s frustrating to me that such a well written and informative comment has been downvoted. I understand that it’s a touchy subject but this is an interesting perspective that is worth sharing and reading.

I, for one, downvoted it because at some point it becomes really tiresome to see the same stale apologia of "baaah, you all just don't understand Marx properly" (and neither, apparently, did any and all leaders of any and all countries where marxists of any ilk ever came to power, because it always ended up the same) from people who had never seen it up close and personal. And this being HN most likely enjoying the l…

Please don't post generic ideological flamewar comments to HN; they're beyond tedious.

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Re: How the Great Truth Dawned

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post #18

This might be also because while our writers (I am not really sure about poets (Pushkin just does not seem to travel as well as Dostoyevsky, or Shakespear) from the 19th century on actually are "world class" so to speak, Russian painters, composers and architects up until early 1900s were really quite derivative and second rate. With all the complexes Russians tend to have aboutr being compared to Europe, or being co…

> With all the complexes Russians tend to have

Adding nationalistic flamebait to ideological flamebait is not the way to make HN threads better. Please don't.

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Re: How the Great Truth Dawned

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post #18

This might be also because while our writers (I am not really sure about poets (Pushkin just does not seem to travel as well as Dostoyevsky, or Shakespear) from the 19th century on actually are "world class" so to speak, Russian painters, composers and architects up until early 1900s were really quite derivative and second rate. With all the complexes Russians tend to have aboutr being compared to Europe, or being co…

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Re: How the Great Truth Dawned

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I hadn't previously read much about Bolshevik ethics. Fascinating and also a bit terrifying. Ideology wholly unrestrained and completely ungrounded is unimaginable thing. Makes me want to read more Soviet history.

I must have had some prior vague sense of the importance of Russian literature and it's place in their culture (faint memories of struggling through Crime and Punishment in high school are coming back to me). But this article put it an entirely different light, which was quite interesting.

However, I did find it strange how the religious belief described in the article was not critically examined in any depth, and was instead simply dusted with this hue of great significance. The only caveat I noticed was the sentence describing how it didn't seem to matter which religious faith the individual had, just that they had some.

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