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Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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Re: Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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A revocable permission for network access on Android would be a great step towards giving users more control over which apps can transmit their personal data.

An entire class of apps could be rendered safe by disallowing network access, especially the ones that do work offline, but are keen to phone home.

Re: Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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post #5

Google fixing vulnerabilities even before the release can only be good news, but one does have to be wonder why a whole class of such vulnerabilities are even allowed after so many releases?

...maybe because they were not discovered before or have been introduced recently?

Re: Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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post #11

A revocable permission for network access on Android would be a great step towards giving users more control over which apps can transmit their personal data. An entire class of apps could be rendered safe by disallowing network access, especially the ones that do work offline, but are keen to phone home.

Right on! Those are the very features that I'm missing!

It seems super simple to provide that basic level of control to the end user.

I also want shadow/fake address books and location information as a feature.

Re: Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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post #11

A revocable permission for network access on Android would be a great step towards giving users more control over which apps can transmit their personal data. An entire class of apps could be rendered safe by disallowing network access, especially the ones that do work offline, but are keen to phone home.

A cheap Huawei phone I had let me do that, right from its Settings! Now I have to use NetGuard for that (no root required).

And this is how I have learned that Google's Calc app apparently wants network access. No thanks!

Re: Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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Do previous Android versions have these vulnerabilities?

The headline is misleading. These vulnerabilities are not in Android 10 but are fixed by Android 10. Which of course means they exist in versions prior to Android 10. Google provides security updates for prior versions so what is not clear from the article is whether these are only fixed by upgrading to Android 10 or whether they were identified during the Android 10 development process but fixes will also be available for prior versions.

Re: Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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post #11

A revocable permission for network access on Android would be a great step towards giving users more control over which apps can transmit their personal data. An entire class of apps could be rendered safe by disallowing network access, especially the ones that do work offline, but are keen to phone home.

This has been possible since Android 8, if not before. You could, per app, from the App Info page:

1. Disallow bg internet access.

2. Disallow fg internet access over wifi.

3. Disallow fg internet access over mobile network.

I've been building an app that exposes privacy features like bouncing permissions when apps are in bg (remember AppOps?), firewalling apps by disallowing data usage, setting DNS over TLS to servers that blackhole ads and trackers, show log of network activity, kill bg processes and activities and so on. Hopefully, would be done in a month or so.

You could do all of the above, today, but mostly, manually, by navigating through nested menus and what-not.

Android 10 would make some parts of what I'm building obsolete, and that's a good thing.

Re: Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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post #11

A revocable permission for network access on Android would be a great step towards giving users more control over which apps can transmit their personal data. An entire class of apps could be rendered safe by disallowing network access, especially the ones that do work offline, but are keen to phone home.

Early versions of android did have a network permission. It was not able to be revoked but at least you knew apps that had no reason to require network access, like early flashlight apps, were not exfiltrating data.

The permission may still exist (it has been a long time since I last wrote an android app) but it is no longer user visible.

Re: Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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post #7

We can still not sandbox apps access to data by default. Numerous academic projects have show how this can be implemented, e.g. by fudging data when details are not needed. Also, in order to get these security fixes I have to buy a new device from one of their partners.. Google has failed society by advancing surveillance capitalism to the extreme.

I don't think you have really used Android lately.

1. Google has added API to access resources without getting full unconditional access

2. They are enforcing use of correct APIs on their store

3. Most of the system is now updated from the store. This is significantly faster than any of their competitors

4. Most vendors are now providing timely security updates. Some even have an Enterprise program with 4-5 years of updates.

Re: Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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post #11

A revocable permission for network access on Android would be a great step towards giving users more control over which apps can transmit their personal data. An entire class of apps could be rendered safe by disallowing network access, especially the ones that do work offline, but are keen to phone home.

This would make things so much safer for everyone but Google has so far refused to do this.

(Android DOES have a network permission, but at some point Google decided it should always be allowed)

Re: Android 10: Google Confirms 193 Security Vulnerabilities Need Fixing

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post #11

A revocable permission for network access on Android would be a great step towards giving users more control over which apps can transmit their personal data. An entire class of apps could be rendered safe by disallowing network access, especially the ones that do work offline, but are keen to phone home.

This has been possible since Android 8, if not before. You could, per app, from the App Info page: 1. Disallow bg internet access. 2. Disallow fg internet access over wifi. 3. Disallow fg internet access over mobile network. I've been building an app that exposes privacy features like bouncing permissions when apps are in bg (remember AppOps?), firewalling apps by disallowing data usage, setting DNS over TLS to serve…

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