A person has died from a vaping-related condition

Post by qes » Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 6:09 PM UTC

otakucode wrote: post #125

WillPostForFood wrote: post #99

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This article has a sentence touching on it, but other sources that almost all these cases of vaping related hospitalizations are from vaping THC, so the sourcing/manufacturing of the product is highly suspect. Who knows what drug dealers are using.

It bothers me greatly to read so many news stories that have conspicuous absences of factual information. If there was a legitimately dangerous product on the market it would be critically important to share exactly what products, brands, etc are affected in what regions. Imagine if we woke up to news stories saying eggs were contaminated by salmonella. And nothing else. Just a blanket fearmongering piece about eggs…

Post by dr_dshiv » Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 6:25 PM UTC

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I'm guessing that if this really is associated with vaping then it's likely due to the limited regulation of the ingredients. Bad batch of VG/PG/nicotine? Some problematic flavouring? I think the best article I've found is at the BMJ: https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l5228 - sorry, paywall. Very much inconslusive at the moment completely in the public health triage stage. Good idea to regulate it properly. I just…

I wish it were easier to distinguish vaping dry flower from liquids. They aren’t the same but I hate calling my pax a vape for some reason.

Post by tempguy9999 » Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 6:27 PM UTC

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> somehow it did not seem to have the same addictive effect on me as smoking had Nicotine by itself isn't much addictive until mixed with stuff called MAOIs. Here's an earlier post of mine that gives a bit more detail https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20536162

Snus addicts in Sweden seem to counteract the idea that MAOIs have such a big role.

Post by roywiggins » Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 6:32 PM UTC

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We have to weight a complex set of circumstances: - smoking is an exceptionally harmful habit, so just by coming up with any other activity at random one is likely to end up healthier - this also means advising smokers to switch to vaping even without knowing the health effects of vaping makes sense - marketing vaping to non-smokers should be severely limited though - marketing vaping to kids like juul does, should b…

> marketing vaping to kids like juul does do/did they actually do this? I did a quick Google search and I can find a lot of articles making this claim but the only evidence given is that they have twenty-somethings and bright colors in their ads. if this is "marketing to kids", then that bar seems awfully low.

Post by EpicEng » Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 6:42 PM UTC

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>Not nearly as much of a win as not inhaling any smoke or vapor at all though. Of course, but that's not a practical expectation for most smokers. We have decades of evidence showing that quitting is HARD and that many (most?) will fail. "Just stop" isn't a solution.

I used to smoke a pack a day and quit about 14 years ago using the patch. Quitting is ultimately the only solution. "Keep smoking" just means eventually dying from a smoking related illness.