Fertility Fraud: Artificial insemination doctors who used their own sperm
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Re: Fertility Fraud: Artificial insemination doctors who used their own sperm
#2If it was about a couple going to a doctor and the doctor replacing the man's sperm with his own, I'd understand this, but if a woman goes to a doctor and asks for a sample from an anonymous donor with no further stipulations then I don't see why the donor shouldn't be the doctor. Of course, they should have been open about it, but still.
Re: Fertility Fraud: Artificial insemination doctors who used their own sperm
#3Why is DNA testing not a mandatory part of the process? I thought embryonic genetic testing for show-stopping diseases was one of the major selling points of IVF. Would that not immediately set off alarm bells for paternity/maternity mismatch?
Re: Fertility Fraud: Artificial insemination doctors who used their own sperm
#4If it was about a couple going to a doctor and the doctor replacing the man's sperm with his own, I'd understand this, but if a woman goes to a doctor and asks for a sample from an anonymous donor with no further stipulations then I don't see why the donor shouldn't be the doctor. Of course, they should have been open about it, but still.
Anonymous yes, random no, at least not that I have ever heard of. You get a catalogue of various physical and socioeconomic traits from anonymous donors and pick the one that you want. Replacing that with any other is certainly fraud.
Re: Fertility Fraud: Artificial insemination doctors who used their own sperm
#5Why is DNA testing not a mandatory part of the process? I thought embryonic genetic testing for show-stopping diseases was one of the major selling points of IVF. Would that not immediately set off alarm bells for paternity/maternity mismatch?
Not necessarily - you don't need parents DNA to do those tests.
Also DNA sequencing is one of those areas which experienced incredible cost reduction, much faster than for example general computing power under Moore's law. I.e. it used to be very very expensive. Heck, the first complete human genome sequencing was completed just 16 years ago, and the project took 13 years.
Re: Fertility Fraud: Artificial insemination doctors who used their own sperm
#6Why is DNA testing not a mandatory part of the process? I thought embryonic genetic testing for show-stopping diseases was one of the major selling points of IVF. Would that not immediately set off alarm bells for paternity/maternity mismatch?
Not necessarily - you don't need parents DNA to do those tests. Also DNA sequencing is one of those areas which experienced incredible cost reduction, much faster than for example general computing power under Moore's law. I.e. it used to be very very expensive. Heck, the first complete human genome sequencing was completed just 16 years ago, and the project took 13 years.
There was a story a few weeks ago of screwup in IVF involving not-father's sperm combined with mother's egg by accident. The resulting child is now unwanted by the couple.
Between that story and TFA, maybe it's time for regulators to step in and force DNA testing as early as possible in the process to positively confirm the match. It already costs an arm and a leg, what's another few hundred dollars to avoid creating black mirror situations.
Re: Fertility Fraud: Artificial insemination doctors who used their own sperm
#7If the adult child finds out what happened, and the insemination doctor is still alive, is the child then entitled to a part of the doctor's (future) heritage?
Or if the child finds out when it is still small, or a teenager, will the child be entitled for child support payments from the doctor?
Re: Fertility Fraud: Artificial insemination doctors who used their own sperm
#8If the adult child finds out what happened, and the insemination doctor is still alive, is the child then entitled to a part of the doctor's (future) heritage? Or if the child finds out when it is still small, or a teenager, will the child be entitled for child support payments from the doctor?
For the inheritance, not if there’s a will.
But not all countries let you disinherit your children.
Re: Fertility Fraud: Artificial insemination doctors who used their own sperm
#9If the adult child finds out what happened, and the insemination doctor is still alive, is the child then entitled to a part of the doctor's (future) heritage? Or if the child finds out when it is still small, or a teenager, will the child be entitled for child support payments from the doctor?
For the inheritance, not if there’s a will. But not all countries let you disinherit your children.
> But not all countries let you disinherit your children.
For me it is very weird that some countries do allow it. I did not ask to be born.
Re: Fertility Fraud: Artificial insemination doctors who used their own sperm
#10People at 23AndMe could run an anonymized query on their dataset to extract networks of lineages and see highly connected individuals. It would be fascinating to see some people with hundreds of offsprings because they are sperm donors.
What if their own children become sperm donors, etc. If two persons are born from sperm donors I imagine they have to check in case they are siblings or closely related.