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Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about judging us on our performance at our jobs then, and not treating us as children?

In most professional settings, it’s considered a norm not to talk about sex, politics, and religion unless your business is dealing with one of those areas specifically.

This is wonderful when your very existence isn’t political. So cis het white men. For the rest of us we don’t have this luxury. This is the pinnacle example of white and male privilege.

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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The problem is that what constitutes politics? Guns shouldn't be political, who you have sex with shouldn't be political...but in our current climate, they are both considered political. ..and no debating? Most people at Google are shades of left. It sounds like they are just trying to drown out dissenting views once again.

> Guns shouldn't be political Guns are power, power is political.

Sex is power, power is political.

Freedom is power, power is political.

The unfortunate reality is that there are no closed systems in nature. Nothing can be completely firewalled off from politics, power, game theory, status, memetics, social dynamics, tribal value-signaling, etc.

The best we can probably hope for is localized, fuzzy consensus on taboos. We might all decide it's inappropriate to criticize sexual behaviors, or bring up religion in polite company; but it's probably fine if someone has strong feelings about adding a stoplight to 3rd & Main, or increasing funding to national parks.

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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post #8

The problem is that what constitutes politics? Guns shouldn't be political, who you have sex with shouldn't be political...but in our current climate, they are both considered political. ..and no debating? Most people at Google are shades of left. It sounds like they are just trying to drown out dissenting views once again.

Your attempt to argue this is somehow vague or a slippery slope is silly - most workplaces seem to have not a tremendous amount of trouble with this, even though it is not rigorously defined.

Agreed. I am transgender, lesbian, asexual and polyromantic, and none of these things have I ever had so much as a discussion about at my office, nor have they sparked any 'political' discussion. (I work at one of the major 5 banks in Canada).

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about judging us on our performance at our jobs then, and not treating us as children?

In most professional settings, it’s considered a norm not to talk about sex, politics, and religion unless your business is dealing with one of those areas specifically.

But do most professional settings go to this extent to police their employees:

> creating a team of moderators to monitor conversations on company chat boards

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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Why shouldn’t employees of the company with the goal of organizing all the worlds information debate politics? Everything is political. Especially information.

Yes, but that should be determined by subject matter experts in policy and politics.

For example the issue of who controls the three different areas of “Kashmir” should not be settled by the opinions of college graduates who have little exposure to international politics and policy and or history.

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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Monkey has shit the bed already though hasn't it.

I never had the need to discuss politics at work. Just don't do it, why open that can of worms. Absolutely no need to do so. One time a coworker asked me and I said "I don't discuss politics at work". Be professional, people.

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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post #17

Why shouldn’t employees of the company with the goal of organizing all the worlds information debate politics? Everything is political. Especially information.

Because they have work to do. That's why they're there.

Their job is to create a forum for others to debate, and to try and maintain neutrality. Their own politics aren't necessarily relevant. Everyone wants to be able to have their political opinions, try and convince others, and not get fired. It's kind of a pick-2 situation. Feel free to bring politics in with ya so long as you embrace the philosophy that you can say anything you want on your last day.
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