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Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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How about we do our jobs instead? Yes please!

How about judging us on our performance at our jobs then, and not treating us as children?

In most professional settings, it’s considered a norm not to talk about sex, politics, and religion unless your business is dealing with one of those areas specifically.

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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How about we do our jobs instead? Yes please!

How about judging us on our performance at our jobs then, and not treating us as children?

I guess the issue is people no longer act as adults (having rational discussions over differences) when confronted with differing or worse opposing views? A small but large enough group (on many issues) get enraged and genuinely feel threatened by alternate opinions.

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Guns shouldn't be political Guns are power, power is political.

By that standard, most interesting work is political.

Everything is political. So Google is obviously banning a subset of politic.

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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The problem is that what constitutes politics? Guns shouldn't be political, who you have sex with shouldn't be political...but in our current climate, they are both considered political. ..and no debating? Most people at Google are shades of left. It sounds like they are just trying to drown out dissenting views once again.

Everything is political, and politics affect everything. If you think there are no politics in something it's likely that the politics involved in it are not close to you, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Identity isn't political, until you have one that isn't an accepted norm. Sexual orientation isn't political, until people want to deny you insurance over yours. Race isn't political, until people refuse to sell you houses because of it. And so on.

"Keep politics out of $thing" is the purest expression of privilege. Doesn't make you a bad person or anything, but it's worth keeping in mind.

Shifting back to topic some: this idea that Google has had for years about platforms and now about it's internal one, that you can somehow keep the ugly elements of our society out and just have a nice, clean, advertiser and marketer-freindly area (ala YouTube) has permeated everything they've made. The problem is any place that people gather and collaborate will, eventually, get political. It can't not. As a species we have dragged politics into everything since long before we tricked silicon chips into thinking. I don't know why people keep thinking the Internet can be different, but it can't.

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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How about we do our jobs instead? Yes please!

This is exactly right. At my small startup we may have heated discussions about monads, or tabs vs spaces, but you'll never hear any talk about any elected official or laws or current events.

It's not that we don't care. It's just that it's not the reason we spend 8+ hours/day together.

Re: Google Doesn’t Want Staff Debating Politics at Work Anymore

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I think they just overestimated the ability of their employees to respect each other when they hold differing world views. That's kinda natural once you reach a certain size and your colleagues may as well be randos on the street.

To be fair, that's a learning most businesses stumbled upon decades ago, it's the new generation of "re-invent management" companies that are speedrunning HR policy.

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