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Re: Caviar was a free bar snack

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post #20

What's interesting about beluga caviar is that it taste varies a lot. I've tried illegally caught Russian caviar and then I've tried some caviar from a sustainable farm and the former was way better for some reason.

Generally wild-caught fish taste better, probably because of the differences in diet and activity.

WaPo tried to test this, and found that a bit of added salt overwhelms any difference in meat quality.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/farmed-vs-wild...

Re: Caviar was a free bar snack

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post #10

I enjoy beluga caviar - very expensive for what it is though. A much cheaper alternatve is (homemade) black olive tapenade - almost as good for similar usages, and far more sustainable. But I suspect the consumption of caviar is more about signalling than actual taste anyway.

A more comparable sustainable alternative is seaweed caviar. It looks, feels and tastes pretty much the same as any caviar.

Ikea now sells seaweed caviar (I haven't seen it anywhere else in the US yet) and it is a legit alternative to caviar.

I'm slowly going vegan, for environmental and ethical reasons, and that was one food replacement I realized does a really good job at being as good at being a replacement.

I'd suggest anyone near an ikea try it.

Re: Caviar was a free bar snack

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post #2

"It takes twenty years for a female beluga to mature, and at that point she can weigh as much as 1,800 pounds [...]. Such a fish could yield twenty pounds of eggs [when killed]." That's got to be one of the least sustainable things I've ever heard of. I tried caviar once. It didn't taste like much, and I didn't see the point.

Similarly, there is a vegetable known as the heart-of-the-palm, or otherwise known as millionaire's cabbage, which can be harvested from a fully grown coconut tree, but which will kill the tree once harvested.

Re: Caviar was a free bar snack

#36
post #10

I enjoy beluga caviar - very expensive for what it is though. A much cheaper alternatve is (homemade) black olive tapenade - almost as good for similar usages, and far more sustainable. But I suspect the consumption of caviar is more about signalling than actual taste anyway.

That's like saying that Trabant is a much cheaper alternative to Bentley. Technically it is... but not quite. Edit: I don't know how to be any more clearer here, but "Olive tapenade as a beluga caviar alternative" is straight from the /shit-the-hn-says department, it's beyond ridiculous. "Ketchup as a San Marzano tomato alternative."

I'd have more sympathy for your viewpoint if caviar actually tasted as good as olive tapenade ...

Re: Caviar was a free bar snack

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post #2

"It takes twenty years for a female beluga to mature, and at that point she can weigh as much as 1,800 pounds [...]. Such a fish could yield twenty pounds of eggs [when killed]." That's got to be one of the least sustainable things I've ever heard of. I tried caviar once. It didn't taste like much, and I didn't see the point.

It is as sustainable as fishing any other species of fish. Whether caught for meat or eggs the result is the same. What matters is the quantity fished. Many luxury foods became so because of culture/fashion trends, btw. For example, lobster used to be used to fertilise fields and to feed prisoners and servants in the American North-East.

> It is as sustainable as fishing any other species of fish.

With such a long generational gap, of 20 years, that seems unlikely.

Re: Caviar was a free bar snack

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post #28

And lobster wasn't a fancy meal until early 20th century https://www.history.com/news/a-taste-of-lobster-history "lobsters were routinely fed to prisoners, apprentices, slaves and children during the colonial era and beyond"

And the well-to-do in colonial America were eating luxurious German Bologna

Re: Caviar was a free bar snack

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post #31
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally wild-caught fish taste better, probably because of the differences in diet and activity.

WaPo tried to test this, and found that a bit of added salt overwhelms any difference in meat quality. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/farmed-vs-wild...

Interesting, I seem to remember America's Test Kitchen pointed to some major differences with Salmon, fat content, taste and even suggested cooking temperature.

I mean, I buy the farmed stuff because it's good enough for me, but I'm not exactly a super taster given my love for bitter stuff.

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