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Why the Amazon Is on Fire

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Re: Why the Amazon Is on Fire

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Just a random nitpick about the article... > An avid deforester, Bolsonaro has jokingly nicknamed himself “Captain Chainsaw.” An alternative article from The Guardian says that he rejects that term?! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/07/bolsonaro-amaz...

Brazilian here. In fact, he rejects the term. Some people of his staff deny global warming and he is known for lying and using fake science to justify absurd measures, like removing most of the environmental protection in favor of agriculture. Even rejecting the title, he is known like "Captain Chainsaw" and many others nicknames, most of them mocking him. Unfortunately, in Brazil, our people have a taste for populist presidents, and in this case, he still have support of a big part of the population. Fortunately, his popularity is declining very fast.

Re: Why the Amazon Is on Fire

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The trade war will make things even worse: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00896-2

On a more positive note, an international reforestation / environmental fund should be set up ASAP to reward satellite-verified reforestation with $$$$ and tax countries for deforestation.

It can also use the money to build multi story farms, where solar energy or mirrors are used to feed plants on lower floors. You can save 5-10 the space for cows this way. Why are farms without any stories?

https://youtu.be/cY7O5YNxKuI

To the downvoters: why not at least explain what you disagree with?

Re: Why the Amazon Is on Fire

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The main responsibility of the Amazon fires lies in the west. The Amazon is on fire in order for Brasil to be able to provide cheap meat for western countries.

This comes under two main forms, one is to make room for soy crops, used mostly for cattle feed and not for direct human consumption, the other is for creating pasture land.

The west, as well as China, encourage the Amazon fires by favorable trade agreements with Brasil, which incentivize the deforestation.

Re: Why the Amazon Is on Fire

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Just a random nitpick about the article... > An avid deforester, Bolsonaro has jokingly nicknamed himself “Captain Chainsaw.” An alternative article from The Guardian says that he rejects that term?! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/07/bolsonaro-amaz...

Brazilian here. In fact, he rejects the term. Some people of his staff deny global warming and he is known for lying and using fake science to justify absurd measures, like removing most of the environmental protection in favor of agriculture. Even rejecting the title, he is known like "Captain Chainsaw" and many others nicknames, most of them mocking him. Unfortunately, in Brazil, our people have a taste for populis…

What do you think can be done to accelerate this? Is there anything we in the West can do?

I've seen some petitions targeted at the Brazilian embassy here in my country - but not sure of its effectiveness, as it seems Bolsonaro doesn't really care what the West think.

Re: Why the Amazon Is on Fire

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"Using current NASA data, Amazonian fires show a decline over the record, and are nowhere close to a record so far in 2019." https://www.globalfiredata.org/forecast.html#elbeni

The dry season just started.

Re: Why the Amazon Is on Fire

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If you are seriously concerned about climate change, pressure your government to impose a large tax on beef and pay the proceeds from that tax directly to the people living in the amazon basin. That will incentivize them against deforestation.

Expecting poor people to voluntarily give up on the opportunity to make money because you are threatened about your children's future but can't even be arsed to reduce your own consumption of beef is wishful thinking at best.

Re: Why the Amazon Is on Fire

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The trade war will make things even worse: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00896-2 On a more positive note, an international reforestation / environmental fund should be set up ASAP to reward satellite-verified reforestation with $$$$ and tax countries for deforestation. It can also use the money to build multi story farms, where solar energy or mirrors are used to feed plants on lower floors. You can save…

Here is an upvote... not sure why you're being downvoted.

We should definitely invest more in vertical farming and the reforestation fund also sounds good.

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