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Re: Mac App Store UI is so hideous that it makes me want to kick a swan

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Post by jasonfried »

So what. The actual problem the whole idea is solving is a revolutionary improvement. And this is just v1.

The "interface" problem is not custom controls or back buttons. The interface problem is installing software. That's the interface most average people stumble on. That's where computers suck.

So yeah, some of the UI in the Mac App Store app feels a bit off, but the stuff that matters - one click install of great apps onto your Mac - works beautifully. That's the interface triumph.

Re: Mac App Store UI is so hideous that it makes me want to kick a swan

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Post by pornel »

I hope it's just something temporary released to meet the deadline or that the app was designed for new Lion UI and that's just Leopardized downgraded version.

In Mac apps adherence of HIG and use of standard Cocoa widgets is very important, and poorly thought out/unnecessary deviations are frowned upon — at least for 3rd party developers.

Many parts of OS X/Cocoa are very polished, so it's disheartening that Apple releases something that's debatable between hideous or barely good enough.

Re: Mac App Store UI is so hideous that it makes me want to kick a swan

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Post by pornel »

jasonfried wrote: post #51

So what. The actual problem the whole idea is solving is a revolutionary improvement. And this is just v1. The "interface" problem is not custom controls or back buttons. The interface problem is installing software. That's the interface most average people stumble on. That's where computers suck. So yeah, some of the UI in the Mac App Store app feels a bit off, but the stuff that matters - one click install of great…

Usually Apple has good solutions packaged in very polished UI. Solving problem with "meh" UI is a step down.

Re: Mac App Store UI is so hideous that it makes me want to kick a swan

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Post by ludwigvan »

tewks wrote: post #29

However, the store feels very snappy, which is a welcome change from the iTunes Store being very slow even on a Core i7 machine.

Definitely. At first, I thought 'wow, that's fast, but of course this is not an iOS device', but then I remembered that iOS Store through iTunes was not this fast.

Re: Mac App Store UI is so hideous that it makes me want to kick a swan

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Post by jasonfried »

pornel wrote: post #53
jasonfried wrote: post #51

So what. The actual problem the whole idea is solving is a revolutionary improvement. And this is just v1. The "interface" problem is not custom controls or back buttons. The interface problem is installing software. That's the interface most average people stumble on. That's where computers suck. So yeah, some of the UI in the Mac App Store app feels a bit off, but the stuff that matters - one click install of great…

Usually Apple has good solutions packaged in very polished UI. Solving problem with "meh" UI is a step down.

Not always with v1. Apple UIs generally get better with age. They're still iterating large on things like iPhoto and iMovie.

Re: Mac App Store UI is so hideous that it makes me want to kick a swan

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Post by tolmasky »

jasonfried wrote: post #55
pornel wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually Apple has good solutions packaged in very polished UI. Solving problem with "meh" UI is a step down.

Not always with v1. Apple UIs generally get better with age. They're still iterating large on things like iPhoto and iMovie.

Precisely, and itunes gets worse with every version, so another counter example there.

Re: Mac App Store UI is so hideous that it makes me want to kick a swan

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Post by _b8r0 »

Just tried it. What I don't understand is this:

To manage apps on my iphone/ipad/ipod I use iTunes. In iTunes I go to an app store if I want to install a new app on those devices.

To access what I perceive to be essentially a form of the same store but for Mac software, I use a dedicated application that now forms part of the Operating System's update management. This makes no sense to me.

Does this mean that we'll start to see iphone/pod/pad management moving towards the mac app store and a (hopefully) slimmer itunes?

Re: Mac App Store UI is so hideous that it makes me want to kick a swan

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Post by tehjones »

A note on the upper left hand 'control' buttons. Using the graphite theme there are no colours or controls obviously visible, so i didnt even notice the difference.

It took a comment on this blog post for me to notice that iTunes has vertical buttons. I hope that is a fair indication how often I even look at those buttons.

Re: Mac App Store UI is so hideous that it makes me want to kick a swan

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Post by tehjones »

sudont wrote: post #26
mechanical_fish wrote: post #19

If it makes you sad because Apple is no longer devoting thousands of pixels at the top of each window to a big "drag this window" control, you'd better brace yourself, because the next step for many consumer applications is to have windows that cannot be dragged at all. This design looks like an iPad screen to me. Did the implications of Apple's stated mission to "make the Mac more like the iPad" not sink in? The iPa…

I highly doubt that that Apple will remove dragable windows. Their iPad-ification of applications is the full-screen mode that can be toggled. More likely: a bar-wide drag handler that takes precedence over widget clicking.

I would prefer to see an X Window style alt to drag system, makes life moving windows much easier.
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