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Cryptic, allusive messages from Hong Kong's wealthiest tycoon

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If you speak Chinese, you'll find it's very easy to squeeze sentences in exact same characters. Almost all poems in China (except very modern ones) do this. It's so easy that people in forums do this a along - being sarcastic or just funny. You could have positive meaning literally, but hide dirty words in structures. Also because it's so easy that this was defined as serious crime in many dynasties. There were even…

I wonder if sentencing like these still happen today.

As far as I know, no.

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#183
post #55

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This has been my thought too. China is allowing these protests to go on. At any point, they can roll in the tanks, and they will be over. Without meaningful ways to defend themselves, there really is no way to win against the Chinese government.

I hope you're being sarcastic. Partly because the idea of civilians using guns bought at the supermarket to oppose the Chinese army is hilarious; partly because the idea that you need guns to get freedom, is general, even more laughable. Sorry.

I feel sorry for you. You don't truly understand how you have the freedom for instance..To speak your mind here on HN.

Very few governments will just give away freedom and power. It needs to be take back by force.

If the HK citizens had access to weapons this entire time, the Chinese government would think twice before invading. Unfortunately, it's too late for that.

This is why the second amendment is so important in the US.

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#184

I dunno, my classical Chinese ain't all that, but I think these guys are straining with the hidden message. It is funny though. I myself am reading quite a bit of meaning into the conspicuous avoidance of the characters "tian", "an", and "men" throughout both ads. The melon ad is fairly defiant, though, in a classy kind of way. If I were a betting man, I'd take the other side. Preserving absolute rule of law in Hong…

> but I think these guys are straining with the hidden message

In context, it likely isn't straining. If he desired to simply declare an end to violence, he could have done so in a less tortured graphical format.

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#185
post #118

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>In this a City with the 0.539 Gini coefficient, why people hate the government on the other side than rich oligarchs? capital owns media. This has perplexed me to no end. The straw that broke the camel's back was an extradition treaty being proposed, and not the crushing living conditions that have been worsening over the past two decades. Sounds like you are a native. curious why you think this is the case outside…

Yes, I'm from China mainland. Just like some western opinion that why Chinese people don't fight their government for democracy and free speech, I really can not understand why HK people don't fight oligarchs for goods prices and living house. Every few years, some protests happen in Hong Kong, None of those protests is aiming to the oligarchs, some people do hate Li, but the most far they can do is ridiculing and co…

> I really can not understand why HK people don't fight oligarchs for goods prices and living house.

How do you properly fight oligarchs in your country when you don't have control of the government?

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#186
post #31

Li Ka-shing is well aware. His job ad for a Chinese PA was featured in the news for its salary (HK$1Mpa) and very high requirements (expert level in modern and classical Chinese and Chinese history, 20+ years experience). https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/world/breakingnews/1567579

That's about $125k USD. Which is high probably for a PA in general but probably seem unsurprising for PAs for billionaires.

Hong Kong, not USA. It's a good salary for HK.

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#187

> “everyone knows what 4 / 6 /89 signifies” This annoyed me quite a bit. No I don’t. Most people probably don’t. It’s the date of Tiananmen Square.

Generally you're right, it's annoying if authors flaunt their brilliance by referring to esoteric knowledge, but you have to take into account the usual audience of that blog - it's language and (particularly Victor Mair's audience) China geeks. They know.

Re: Cryptic, allusive messages from Hong Kong's wealthiest tycoon

#188

> “everyone knows what 4 / 6 /89 signifies” This annoyed me quite a bit. No I don’t. Most people probably don’t. It’s the date of Tiananmen Square.

HKers simply refer to the Tiananmen event as “64” in Cantonese, read separately (six four, not sixty four).

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#189
post #81

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The widespread rumor among the foreign Hong Kong press corps is that Lam has tried several times to resign, and not been permitted to do so.

If true, what a nasty position to be in. Unwanted and unhappy, but can't leave. I wonder if this might make some otherwise "approved candidates" think twice.

She should call Theresa May for tips how to cope.
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