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Brazil's President Blames NGOs for Amazon Fires

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Re: Brazil's President Blames NGOs for Amazon Fires

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Bolsonaro's government is a criminal regime. One of his first goals was to destroy the agencies that regulate the environment and disable the reporting mechanisms (which were "fake news" according to him). He personally fired the president of INPE, a state research agency, for publicizing a report about Amazon deforestation.

Re: Brazil's President Blames NGOs for Amazon Fires

#12
Of course he blames the NGOs. They've been fairly vocal against his policies for opening up further territory for agribusiness, so now he's blaming them saying that they have set fires in order to discredit him. The end result is almost certainly going to be multiple attempts to ban as many of those organizations as possible on the grounds that they are some sort of eco-terrorists destroying Brazil's rainforest. It won't make much sense but making sense is not the goal. Getting those organizations out of his hair is the goal.

Watch what he does, not what he says.

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According to this NASA report, this is a natural occurrence on this time of the year:

> As of August 16, 2019, an analysis of NASA satellite data indicated that total fire activity across the Amazon basin this year has been close to the average in comparison to the past 15 years.

Source: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145464/fires-in-bra...

Re: Brazil's President Blames NGOs for Amazon Fires

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I see this meme pop up on social media all the time now about how the Amazon rainforest is burning and to spread the “awareness”.

But really, what are you supposed to do? Merely being aware of some tragedy occurring far away doesn’t do anything. The people who perpetuated it don’t give a damn. Are we supposed to go put out the fires? Are we supposed to go kill the people who did this?

If there’s nothing I can do, then I’m better off not knowing. I have more relevant things to care about. The only thing this awareness campaign tells me is that Brazilians have done a terrible job of protecting their rainforest, and they should be judged accordingly in the future.

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Bolsonaro's government is a criminal regime. One of his first goals was to destroy the agencies that regulate the environment and disable the reporting mechanisms (which were "fake news" according to him). He personally fired the president of INPE, a state research agency, for publicizing a report about Amazon deforestation.

Criminal? As opposed to which other governments?

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#18

There is a good interactive map: https://www.windy.com/-CO-concentration-cosc?cosc,-12.555,-7...

Thanks a lot.

It's very hard to understand what is happening from the media (Brazilian or international). This map explains:

- why it's so concerning even if the fires are overall smaller than the Amazon average for this time - because most of Acre and Rondônia are on fire, the average is down pushed by the largest, less populated states.

- what is up with the national and Acre's governments fighting on TV - most of the fire is there.

- How can the smoke reach São Paulo even though there's none of it here at the middle of the way in Brasilia - it literally took a turn at Bolivia.

The Bolivian and Peruvian people are probably not happy at all with the fires. I wonder why I don't see them complaining.

Re: Brazil's President Blames NGOs for Amazon Fires

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post #15

I see this meme pop up on social media all the time now about how the Amazon rainforest is burning and to spread the “awareness”. But really, what are you supposed to do? Merely being aware of some tragedy occurring far away doesn’t do anything. The people who perpetuated it don’t give a damn. Are we supposed to go put out the fires? Are we supposed to go kill the people who did this? If there’s nothing I can do, the…

Our awareness alone might reduce the harm being done. If this were front and center on all cablenews and connected to alarming news like the Greenland glacier melting faster than anticipated it might reduce the pace at which Bolsonaro and the forces aligned with him light these fires.

Re: Brazil's President Blames NGOs for Amazon Fires

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post #15

I see this meme pop up on social media all the time now about how the Amazon rainforest is burning and to spread the “awareness”. But really, what are you supposed to do? Merely being aware of some tragedy occurring far away doesn’t do anything. The people who perpetuated it don’t give a damn. Are we supposed to go put out the fires? Are we supposed to go kill the people who did this? If there’s nothing I can do, the…

Our awareness alone might reduce the harm being done. If this were front and center on all cablenews and connected to alarming news like the Greenland glacier melting faster than anticipated it might reduce the pace at which Bolsonaro and the forces aligned with him light these fires.

Bolsonaro is a killer. The people who lit these fires are killers. Brazil is practically run by killers.

I promise you they do not give a damn about what you, or the rest of the world thinks. The forest will burn to ashes, all the same.

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