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Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by jokermatt999 »

etherealG wrote: post #85
fwdbureau wrote: post #78

Call me old fashioned, but I fail to see how implementing a corporate middleman between developers and users can be a progress... OK, from a developer's stand point, this could be really beneficial (distribution, centralization etc), but as a user, it feels like seeing independent record stores about to be crushed by a shiny new Virgin Megastore. I can't help to hope this will be an immense failure

distribution already exists! it's called the internet. fire up a website, have a downloadable app, and you're done. I don't understand why people keep saying the same for "app stores" like iphone and android, and now osx too. why can't I just search for an app on a search engine, goto that apps website, download it and run/install it? how does this system benefit me as a user at all?

You don't need it, but it makes things a hell of a lot more convenient. When I run Linux, I don't Google "linux media player", I just search the repository and install things much easier. If I googled "linux media player", I'd have to sort through various unrelated sites (reviews, howtos, spam/malware, old versions on different sites, forums, etc). When I search an app store/repository, I just get exactly what I want. It's less of a noticeable benefit if you know exactly what you want (because you can usually look for the app name and find their site), but it's helpful for searching for a category of apps. Additionally, it's nice to have a simpler update system. Updating apps on Windows is a mess, and I know I should really do more about it, because apps that don't include update functionality generally don't get updated.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by hack_edu »

sfphotoarts wrote: post #107
pclark wrote: post #8

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iTunes is by far the worst Apple product in terms of software engineering

Care to back thar up with some explanation. Having switched to iTunes long ago and use it daily without ever having problem I fail to see your point.

Shuffle STILL plays just a few dozen songs over and over.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by jokermatt999 »

vokoda wrote: post #38

Anyone else feel like https://chrome.google.com/webstore makes this seem old-fashioned? Seriously who's going to be running software on their local machine a year from now (apart from hackers obviously).

Take a look at the sales figures for the webstore. I don't think the change is coming.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by ceejayoz »

j_baker wrote: post #224
ben1040 wrote: post #86

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Clearing the cache directories was also not sufficient for me -- I had to clear the cache directories, then sign out from my Apple ID (within the app store) and back in.

Signing out and back in worked for me. I didn't have to clear the cache.

I saw that suggested, tried it a few times, no luck. Wonder what the underlying issue is.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by mikeklaas »

philwelch wrote: post #197
tommi wrote: post #144

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I highly disagree. Native apps can provide way more better integration to your desktop and therefore improve the user experience. E.g. showing a consistent (growl) popup for tweets is not possible as far as i know from the web version. And that's just a very simplified example.

(Off-topic rant) Yes, because it's vitally fucking important to interrupt my workflow everytime there's a new "Shit My Dad Says". God, I hate Growl sometimes.

You hate a notification framework because YOU installed an app that uses it to ping you with stupid crap?

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by matthew-wegner »

pavlov wrote: post #159

I'm impressed with the Mac App Store so far. Pretty bold of Apple to push it so prominently onto every Mac user's Dock as part of a point update to the operating system. My little landscape generator app, Turtledoveland , is currently at #5 on the Top Paid list for the Graphics & Design category. I'll be sure to let HN know what kind of sales numbers that actually means, once the numbers come in...

I also have a few titles in the mix. On the game charts, currently #14 (Blush), #59 (Crane Wars), #61 (Off-Road Velociraptor Safari), and #107 (Time Donkey).

We're always very open with our numbers--I'll post initial results as soon as I have them. I shipped everything with our Blurst accounts for leaderboards/achievements/etc, so I should be able to infer some ballpark figures before official numbers tonight. Will post to http://technology.blurst.com and http://twitter.com/mwegner

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by CWIZO »

lancewiggs wrote: post #229
CWIZO wrote: post #181

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Care to elaborate on why that is good?

It removes the unusable rubbish from the store. The last thing Apple (or I as a customer) want is a vast quantity of demo or crippleware on my computer and cluttering up the store.

Demo and full version of the app could easily be combined into one entry and that would solve the clutter problem.

I don't know about you, but even 50€ is a lot of money for me, and I'd like to try the app first and buy it only if I find it useful. And I suspect that the average Joe will not know how to find the demo version on the internet.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by listic »

rudd wrote: post #43

I will say this: Apple is not afraid to leave old technology behind. While website XYZ aims to support multiple versions of every browser, including those released a decade ago (IE6), Apple won't even support Leopard with its new store, which was the version that came with the Mac I got just over a year ago.

Regarding OS X version: how do you go about upgrading OS X? I am a new Mac user.

I was given a free 2008 MacBook 13" in colledge. It came with Mac OS 10.5.2 installed, which couldn't run some new programs, so I did an update and it updated to 10.5.8 which solved all my problems so far. Are you supposed do buy an OS upgrade? Or buy a new Mac?

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by danudey »

Travis wrote: post #167
axod wrote: post #148

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I think there's a pretty compelling argument that iTunes has become a monolithic abomination trying to do a thousand things. Split it up into more programs that each do something simple and well.

I'm not sure splitting it up is the solution. But I 100% agree, it's become a bloated piece of crap. I've thought this for a long time now. Anyone have any alternatives, that aren't something like MythTV? I just want a lightweight multimedia app for my Mac (VLC doesn't have a great "library" feature, so that's a nogo for me... but something like VLC). VLC is my favorite app ever.

I've been using Plex for Mac, and it's quite good. Not sure if it counts as 'lightweight', but it's fantastic. I load TV shows or movies into it (non-iTunes though).

I have it set up on my Mac Mini (connected via HDMI), and I can remote control it with the Apple Remote, but there's also an iPhone/iPad app that can both remote control (up, down, select, back), remote browse (tap on a movie or TV episode to watch it on the TV), and stream (tap on a movie to watch it on your iPhone/iPad).

It also has the nice feature of being able to automatically find any other Plex instances on the local network and automatically stream from them as if the media were local. That way, you can connect Plex to your media centre in the basement, but watch the data anywhere in the house (e.g. on a smaller TV in the bedroom or an iMac in the office).

It's really a great ecosystem, and if their partnership with LG[1] pans out, it might get that much better.

1. http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/03/plex-announces-paternship...

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