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How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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Re: How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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Looking into the T drop in fatherhood, the original study seems to account for self reports of 'sleep quality' but I wonder if sleep deprivation is not still a confounder in this finding. Annedoctally as a recent father of a 6 month old, I would likely self report a good sleep quality in a questionnaire. However, objectively I know I sleep about 5 hours 30min yesterday evening, which would be sufficient sleep 'depriv…

> Annedoctally as a recent father of a 6 month old, I would likely self report a good sleep quality in a questionnaire. However, objectively I know I sleep about 5 hours 30min yesterday evening, which would be sufficient sleep 'deprivation' to impact T production. When our 9 month old started to sleep through the night (at around 4-5 months), we'd get between 5-6 hours of sleep, which after the interrupted sleep of t…

I think you can enjoy some Louis CK on parenthood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5jAUgJATAg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=166L3cE3zyk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEJAOfHlREA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cubu_JeaV2g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27b7bAY1ro

Re: How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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> Women become pregnant before they become mothers. Men become pregnant after they become fathers. I heard this joke a while ago, and while cruel seems to have an element of truth to it by observation. Lack of sleep, lack of exercise, less time to make healthy meals seems to be a terrible combination for weight gain.

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Re: How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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Are you able to elaborate?

Its hard to do so. It felt like a mental "click" but not like you get when you have been trying to solve a puzzle... it felt like a mental " gear change ". My thought processes changed order or priority, Things that I felt were important before were suddenly less important and I think I things from a different angle (not just life stuff but problem solving approaches.). its really hard to describe. What I can say is…

Do you mean like parental instinct? When you are in 'father mode', you physically and mentally geared up and ready to take up the role.

Re: How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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I always took off 3 months from work per baby. There's no point coding when you're always sleep deprived. Last year the company agreed to about half the salary, so I'd work from home on some things, or come in half the week or half a day as needed. Then again I did notice I was very good at understanding baby talk. Taking from some old notes of my 5 month old baby: "eh eh eh", but no crying at 6 AM = "I need a diaper…

You could extrapolate that into an app. :-) But seriously, congratulations on getting to that level of bonding with child. It was also the same for me and it is magical!

It's quite different to the first kid so I don't think the same translations work with most other kids.

Re: How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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I was hoping this would explain my weight gain but I suppose I have to accept that replacing daily workouts with 3 bowls of ice cream and magic shell may be the culprit.

I’ve piled on the weight since our second was born. I attribute it to the reasons mentioned here and also that I’ve not been cycling to work for the last several months. We bought a new home and don’t currently have a place to store my bike so it’s been languishing in my office. So I take the bus because owning two cars is prohibitively expensive here in Europe. The bus is slower than car and bike so I’m rushing out without breakfast and eating junk when I get to work. On the bust home I’ll often snack on more junk.

All that changes today as we’re finally getting a garden shed and I’ll be back in the saddle.

Re: How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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post #60

> Women become pregnant before they become mothers. Men become pregnant after they become fathers. I heard this joke a while ago, and while cruel seems to have an element of truth to it by observation. Lack of sleep, lack of exercise, less time to make healthy meals seems to be a terrible combination for weight gain.

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Yeah. Perfect way to teach your kid about healthy foods and nutrition: drinking smoothies.

Re: How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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Random Q: I have to lose 40 lbs getting dad-bod sans dadness right now (medication side-effects). 0. Has anyone seriously looked into variations of intermittent fasting &| extended fasting? 1. Did you have brain fog after hunger went away after a few days, or less fog? 2. What about maintenance vitamins, electrolytes and preventing gallstones? 3. How long did you continue for, until hunger returned?

I have been fasting for a month now and I have lost a solid 6kg. I started with one meal a day (OMAD) and then I started skipping a day twice a week for a total of 5x 24hr fasts and 2x 48hr fasts. This week I completed a 72hr fast.

One reason I like it is that it requires the least planning and mental load. I eat what I want as much as I want (except sugar) and almost no matter what I do it works out to be less than my maintenance calories and I lose weight because I can't eat 4k calories in one sitting. The simplicity of it gives me less breaking points, and the ability to "eat whatever I want" makes planning for a big meal in 2 days a good reward to keep going.

The beginning is very hard and it's mostly due to sugar addiction. Many people say switching to keto first to wean off sugar makes fasting much easier.

To answer your questions:

1. Hunger comes and goes in waves, but mostly it just goes. Mentally I become more focused and clearer the longer I am into my fast, and overall I no longer get the fog from overeating or too much sugar.

2. I take a standard multivitamin GNC brand. When I feel light headed/have low blood pressure I drink a salty bone broth. Some people have their own electrolyte recipes like snake juice you can look into.

3. I go for a set amount of time. I found that it's very difficult if I'm just fasting for "as long as I can" because when the hunger comes I break. If I have a set breakfast time it's much easier to carry on until then.

Re: How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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This is the type of sexist, ignorant bullshit I'd expect to see on reddit. Welcome to hn

This is worse than reddit actually. Actually his comment is what I expect a subset of HN would think. Male tech workers who value money above all else.

Depends on what you consider to be worse, I guess. On reddit you get many of the blatant fucks. The 4chan memers, the blatant racists, the unabashedly sexist incels. They all know who they are, what they're doing, and they practically do it for fun.

On hn, you seem to have the same demographics, but they either have no idea about what they're actually saying or they're smart enough to argue that it's okay and sound like they've almost made a legitimate argument.

Re: How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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Random Q: I have to lose 40 lbs getting dad-bod sans dadness right now (medication side-effects). 0. Has anyone seriously looked into variations of intermittent fasting &| extended fasting? 1. Did you have brain fog after hunger went away after a few days, or less fog? 2. What about maintenance vitamins, electrolytes and preventing gallstones? 3. How long did you continue for, until hunger returned?

I was kinda in the same boat. Just getting a bit “chunkier”. Was 220lbs (some was also water weight from creatine) and now I’m 180lbs (I’m 6’1 if that helps). I tried intermittent fasting and it definitely worked for me. Related to your questions

1. For me, I never really experienced brain fog while IF. If anything, I seem to get more fog after eating regular/larger meals. When I was really hungry, drinking water and/or coffee (Starbucks double shots) worked for me. After a while you get used to hunger, and I seem to work better when I’m hungry vs when I’ve eaten a typical meal. If I’m seriously so hungry I’m getting a headache (which happens) id only have something with protein, absolutely no carbs (i.e lunch meat, eggs, nuts)

2. Don’t have too much knowledge or experience on gallstones. I took fish oil supplements occasionally and cut out creatine, but that’s about it.

3. Not 100% sure based on wording, but I was doing IF for about 6 weeks and lost ~20lbs. I ate from 6pm to 10pm, slept typically 1am to 7-8am. Only coffee and water during the day.

Now at 180lbs and not on IF or a strict IF schedule, I typically just have coffee in the mornings, a light lunch if I eat, and a typical dinner. 30 mins cardio 2-3 days a week, compound lifts 2-3 days a week.

Source - mid 20’s software developer

Re: How Men’s Bodies Change When They Become Fathers

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its hard to do so. It felt like a mental "click" but not like you get when you have been trying to solve a puzzle... it felt like a mental " gear change ". My thought processes changed order or priority, Things that I felt were important before were suddenly less important and I think I things from a different angle (not just life stuff but problem solving approaches.). its really hard to describe. What I can say is…

Do you mean like parental instinct? When you are in 'father mode', you physically and mentally geared up and ready to take up the role.

My first thoughts were that it was like that, but I realized after a few weeks that I was thinking like that at work as well, when nowhere near the kid.
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