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Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Kong protests

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Re: Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Kong protests

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First time I got an accurate map of India was when I stepped out of it. Whole of Kashmir is shown as Indian territory in all books and newspapers, even the area that is under administration of China and Pakistan. It was quite something. Other aspects opened up too, but the map thing was quite outrageous example. With international media availability, graphics have become better now thankfully.

Can you explain this a little bit? Isn't there a big issue right now between India and Kasmir? You're saying it's actually under the administration of China?

I'm sorry if this sounds naive - I guess I have no idea what's going on in the world.

Re: Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Kong protests

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Serious question: I've got a couple of mainland Chinese acquaintances on my social networks, who are real people but also busily spouting Chinese government propaganda.

As the article says, I don't expect them to change their views overnight, but I would like to plant some seeds of doubt. Any suggestions for links to suitable content? (Ideally accessible from behind the GFW, although most can VPN outside it.) For example, the mainland Chinese government has been painting the HK protests as the work of a tiny terrorist minority, so solidly commented footage of 1M+ peaceful protesters should jar their world view a little.

Re: Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Kong protests

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Chinese students should be allowed to think however they want, but their behavior is unacceptable in a western democracy. I am not sure that these international Chinese students are good for our universities. I feel like the universities sold out to them because they pay full price tuition. This is latest example of them not understanding even basic behavior in western country.

A democracy has to tolerate differences in opinion.

Re: Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Kong protests

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post #4

First time I got an accurate map of India was when I stepped out of it. Whole of Kashmir is shown as Indian territory in all books and newspapers, even the area that is under administration of China and Pakistan. It was quite something. Other aspects opened up too, but the map thing was quite outrageous example. With international media availability, graphics have become better now thankfully.

Can you explain this a little bit? Isn't there a big issue right now between India and Kasmir? You're saying it's actually under the administration of China? I'm sorry if this sounds naive - I guess I have no idea what's going on in the world.

Start here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_conflict#/media/File:K...

Yellow: controlled by India, green: controlled by Pakistan, red: controlled by China.

Re: Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Kong protests

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Chinese students should be allowed to think however they want, but their behavior is unacceptable in a western democracy. I am not sure that these international Chinese students are good for our universities. I feel like the universities sold out to them because they pay full price tuition. This is latest example of them not understanding even basic behavior in western country.

Wanting their rules to apply in a host country... yeah, that's not a good look. In contrast, we in the West never expect other countries to do it our way when we visit them... /s

And we sure don't miss a chance to deride ourselves when we do it, but God forbid we apply the same standards to everyone else.

Re: Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Kong protests

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Serious question: I've got a couple of mainland Chinese acquaintances on my social networks, who are real people but also busily spouting Chinese government propaganda. As the article says, I don't expect them to change their views overnight, but I would like to plant some seeds of doubt. Any suggestions for links to suitable content? (Ideally accessible from behind the GFW, although most can VPN outside it.) For exa…

what is "Chinese government propaganda"?

Re: Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Kong protests

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post #4

First time I got an accurate map of India was when I stepped out of it. Whole of Kashmir is shown as Indian territory in all books and newspapers, even the area that is under administration of China and Pakistan. It was quite something. Other aspects opened up too, but the map thing was quite outrageous example. With international media availability, graphics have become better now thankfully.

Haha did they put Karakoram highway on Indian map too?

Re: Why so many Chinese students can’t understand the Hong Kong protests

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Chinese students should be allowed to think however they want, but their behavior is unacceptable in a western democracy. I am not sure that these international Chinese students are good for our universities. I feel like the universities sold out to them because they pay full price tuition. This is latest example of them not understanding even basic behavior in western country.

Wanting their rules to apply in a host country... yeah, that's not a good look. In contrast, we in the West never expect other countries to do it our way when we visit them... /s

I saw plenty of examples that westerners who do the same...it's just not reported in western medias.
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