15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
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Re: 15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
#2Let's imagine a state signs this and is a tipping point state for the presidential election. If this compact has any effect, it will be for the state's electors to vote against the popular vote in that state, resulting in the election of the undesired president according to the state's voters.
Nothing wrong with that constitutionally, but I suspect the politicians will feel differently after the voters express their opinion of the matter.
Re: 15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
#3Let's imagine a state signs this and is a tipping point state for the presidential election. If this compact has any effect, it will be for the state's electors to vote against the popular vote in that state, resulting in the election of the undesired president according to the state's voters. Nothing wrong with that constitutionally, but I suspect the politicians will feel differently after the voters express their…
If this actually does pass the tipping point, nobody will even be counting electors any more, they will only be counting the popular vote. The electors will be considered just a formality.
Re: 15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
#4Up next: Abolishing the World Series. Make it one big, long game and count only the total number of runs.
Re: 15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
#5Another thing to abolish - winner-takes-all system, which prevents wider parties variety.
Re: 15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
#6Let's imagine a state signs this and is a tipping point state for the presidential election. If this compact has any effect, it will be for the state's electors to vote against the popular vote in that state, resulting in the election of the undesired president according to the state's voters. Nothing wrong with that constitutionally, but I suspect the politicians will feel differently after the voters express their…
If this actually does pass the tipping point, nobody will even be counting electors any more, they will only be counting the popular vote. The electors will be considered just a formality.
Vote counts will still be reported at every level, but electors will all cast their votes for the national popular vote winner.
It will be easy enough to note which states' vote counts favor candidate B, despite the national popular vote favoring candidate A.
As parent says, that's the design, but I'm sure there will be upset people in those states.
Re: 15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
#7Let's imagine a state signs this and is a tipping point state for the presidential election. If this compact has any effect, it will be for the state's electors to vote against the popular vote in that state, resulting in the election of the undesired president according to the state's voters. Nothing wrong with that constitutionally, but I suspect the politicians will feel differently after the voters express their…
Yes, of course. If you support the election of President based on national popular vote, then you surely realize that sometimes the President will not be the candidate that was preferred in certain states.
Re: 15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
#8Up next: Abolishing the World Series. Make it one big, long game and count only the total number of runs.
If the results of presidential elections lasted a single year and had stakes as low as the poorly-named "World Series," that would be fine.
Re: 15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
If this actually does pass the tipping point, nobody will even be counting electors any more, they will only be counting the popular vote. The electors will be considered just a formality.
Vote counts will still be reported at every level, but electors will all cast their votes for the national popular vote winner. It will be easy enough to note which states' vote counts favor candidate B, despite the national popular vote favoring candidate A. As parent says, that's the design, but I'm sure there will be upset people in those states.
Well, yeah, people who don't like the winning candidate will be upset. Perhaps some people will be upset that the preferred candidate in their household, neighborhood, city, county, or state didn't win. I don't see how this is an effective argument against this policy.
Re: 15 states are trying to make the electoral college obselete
#10Let's imagine a state signs this and is a tipping point state for the presidential election. If this compact has any effect, it will be for the state's electors to vote against the popular vote in that state, resulting in the election of the undesired president according to the state's voters. Nothing wrong with that constitutionally, but I suspect the politicians will feel differently after the voters express their…
If this actually does pass the tipping point, nobody will even be counting electors any more, they will only be counting the popular vote. The electors will be considered just a formality.
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