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Re: The Browser Monopoly

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Post by s_y_n_t_a_x »

__dawid__ wrote: post #79
darklion wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I ended up switching to Safari, to discover that it's just not quite as good an experience as Firefox or Chrome. IMO, I find it to be just the opposite--neither Firefox nor Chrome are as good an experience as Safari. Maybe the difference is that when a particular site does not work in a given browser, I don't blame the browser, I blame the website.

Safari seems to lag a lot in features. In compatibility it's a modern IE

This is my experience as well. They are much slower to meet standards.

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Post by Paul-ish »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #2

> Firefox is a fine browser by itself [...] I have the comfort of knowing that my personal information is protected (to the extent possible) – and also that my portal to the web is not custom-built to track me and serve me ads FF is fantastic, but the uncomfortable question is, will it always be, given Mozilla has to found further development and is financed by Google's money as well? Apple's Safari actually has bett…

Do you use Safari?

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Post by Tomte »

aluren wrote: post #23

I don't get why people (I mean technically minded people who are aware of privacy issues and so on) don't just use firefox. They are pretty much at feature parity (Firefox may even get the edge due to the fantastic extensions ecosystem), except one spies on you and the other doesn't. Why do people find the switch so hard? In addition, Firefox + ublokc origin is pretty much the only option on mobile if you want to blo…

> Firefox + ublokc origin is pretty much the only option on mobile if you want to block ads

Safari with Firefox Focus as content blocker works well.

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basch wrote: post #3

>Chrome introduced a lot of neat new features (Porn “Incognito Mode,” multithreaded memory changes, tabs and more). Now chrome is getting credit for in private browsing and tabs? (Safari and Opera respectively. Phoenix/Firefox popularized them long before Chrome was a twinkle.) >It is mind-boggling that basic tools like these are not yet standard features in browsers. How long have browsers offered to save passwords?…

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Post by spidermango »

basch wrote: post #88
ro0ster wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would you compare your Firefox experience to Brave? I'm not technically minded but Brave seemed to be easiest mobile ad blocking browser.

and now youre back to using Chromium, and driving marketshare back towards a monosphere of Chromium influence on the web.

but chromium influence on the web isn't bad by default. it's googles implementation in chrome. brave is built to counter everything the article argues

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Post by no_wizard »

basch wrote: post #3

>Chrome introduced a lot of neat new features (Porn “Incognito Mode,” multithreaded memory changes, tabs and more). Now chrome is getting credit for in private browsing and tabs? (Safari and Opera respectively. Phoenix/Firefox popularized them long before Chrome was a twinkle.) >It is mind-boggling that basic tools like these are not yet standard features in browsers. How long have browsers offered to save passwords?…

I agree with your points over all, but I'm still bitter and will take the time every time to sound my bitterness about the fact that Microsoft didn't back Firefox/servo (the rust implementation of their rendering engine)

Why am I bitter?

1. It hands a lot of power over to chromium, regardless of how much it gets forked by Microsoft.

2. It would have put some very talented engineers onto a Chrome competitor, which I always like to see

3. It would have been a huge boost to Rust, which if it ever will unseat c++/c as a systems language target, will need all the help it can get as a de facto standard (you can argue if this is worthwhile or just pie in the sky dreaming, I'll concede on that)

4. I just plain think we need a V8 alternative for a nodejs/electron like ecosystem, in my opinion servo could be that. I know they are doing node-chakra-core, but this could have taken it to a whole new level.

Competition is good, in another words. Even if all my assumptions are wrong, I'd love to see an alternative history where they were laid to bare.

Now, I will admit, I am actually happy to see that they are on Chromimum instead of yet another engine, and I see all the upsides of this move too, and will definitely take advantage of them (with Microsoft Edge being my favorite version of Chrome right now)

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Post by adamc »

aluren wrote: post #23

I don't get why people (I mean technically minded people who are aware of privacy issues and so on) don't just use firefox. They are pretty much at feature parity (Firefox may even get the edge due to the fantastic extensions ecosystem), except one spies on you and the other doesn't. Why do people find the switch so hard? In addition, Firefox + ublokc origin is pretty much the only option on mobile if you want to blo…

I stopped using it (after many, many years) because it has bugs where the hamburger menu (and, often, tabs) stop working, and it was frustrating to deal with.

It also had some weird issues with remote desktop, and I remote to my desktop from meetings fairly often.

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Post by pitaj »

mcv wrote: post #20

I recently ditched Chrome and switched back to Firefox, at home and on my mobile, only to discover that a surprising number of sites don't work in Firefox. In particular: Twitter doesn't work on Firefox Mobile. Most work fine, but still, I ended up switching to Safari, to discover that it's just not quite as good an experience as Firefox or Chrome.

Twitter does work, just never the first time. After a reload it works.
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