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Re: Show HN: IOU – Split shared expenses

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Post by cvs268 » Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 3:25 PM UTC

cvs268 wrote: post #28

Freak_NL wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please read up on present day email address validation. If you have a regex that is doing more than ^.+@.+$, then you are doing it wrong. Don't validate the address beyond looking for an '@' in the string; just send an email with a confirmation link to see if it actually works.

> just send an email with a confirmation link to see if it actually works. Please don't enable anyone to just send emails to arbitrary email-addresses through you. That's how your email/domain will quickly get marked for SPAM. At the very least, put in place a rate-limit per email-id (and source-ip too maybe). Otherwise i can simply keep entering email-ids of people to spam.

Why the -1's ? Isn't this a genuine concern to avoid getting on a SPAM blacklist? What am i missing?...

Re: Show HN: IOU – Split shared expenses

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Post by fheld » Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 3:29 PM UTC

k5hp wrote: post #54

Another great app for tracking expenses is Splid [1] – IMO much better than Splitwise, no accounts required, clean and beautiful UI. (I'm not affiliated with this app) [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=splid.teamturt...

iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/splid-split-group-bills/id99...

and the website (no web app ATM): splid.app

Re: Show HN: IOU – Split shared expenses

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Post by cuddlecake » Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 3:43 PM UTC

I used SettleUp for a while, for writing down food expenses (small amounts, frequent, and different amounts per person)

It was such a hasslr that I decided to set up a transaction log (person A paid X for Person B for item Y) in Google sheets instead, which automatically tracks debts per combination of persons.

It's so much easier since I can parse and note down a receipt within one minute, compared to doing calculations in my head and writing the debts down in an App.

Edit: After giving splitwise a quick look, it also doesn't solve my grocery debts problem.

Re: Show HN: IOU – Split shared expenses

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Post by joshstrange » Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 3:47 PM UTC

noja wrote: post #57

sancha_ wrote: post #25

Feature wise Splitwise offers more, I also never thought Splitwise to be complicated at all.

Does Splitwise (or any app) support OCRing the receipt to visually split the bill? Edit: I found https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.astepanov.... which works offline and does OCR from a photo

It does if you pay

Re: Show HN: IOU – Split shared expenses

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Post by joshstrange » Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 3:50 PM UTC

I know it's been mentioned but Splitwise is an AMAZING app/webapp. I've used it with friends on vacation (uber rides, hotel/airbnb, dinners, etc), I've used it with roommates (electric bill, rent, etc), and now I use it with my boyfriend (rent, groceries, utilities, furniture, tools, etc).

I find it really helps me as I HATE talking about money and asking for it (even when I'm owed it). This way I never feel like I'm paying in more than he is and he doesn't feel like he is paying in more than me. Some months he "pays" his portion of the rent by just buying all the groceries or buying something else we both agreed on getting and it all evens out. Because of this we rarely have to actually settle up but when the balance gets out of wack by like $500 one of us will just venmo the other one and record it in splitwise.

Re: Show HN: IOU – Split shared expenses

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Post by cuddlecake » Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 3:59 PM UTC

Checking this app out I was immediately frustrated. Just switching between the tabs of a pot always takes like 500ms. The FAB immediately glitches because it's not sticking to the bottom of the screen immediately.

Also, clicking on the same tab again also causes annoying friction.

Re: Show HN: IOU – Split shared expenses

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Post by andrewmunsell » Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 4:06 PM UTC

fredley wrote: post #49

afarrell wrote: post #45

Niche that you might want to target: splitting grocery delivery. Why? In the UK, it is common for grocers like Tesco, ASDA, or Sainsburys which offer grocery delivery to require a £40 minimum for an order. It is quite hard to hit that minimum with a week's worth of groceries and ordering groceries for longer than a week is less useful because meat & veg expires. Therefore, it would be nice to be able to split a groce…

In our office we use a shared takeaway system called Seamless. We each submit our order ahead of a cutoff time, pay, then when it arrives each container is individually named so you know what belongs to each person. Something like this could be really good for shared grocery orders for flat shares, but ideally you'd have buy-in from the grocers, so that the bags are separated and there's no quibbling about who ordere…

I always wondered why Instacart never took their Group Carts feature and made it more holistic.

Right now, Instacart lets you create shared "Group Carts" for their grocery delivery, which I use with my girlfriend. But, there's no payment splitting, ability for other people in the shared cart to add items after-the-fact, Instacart Express benefit sharing, or any sort of shared order management abilities.

If Instacart extended the "Group Carts" feature to actual "Group Orders", this would make situations like mine (and also those who use Instacart with roommates) much more convenient and would be similar to how you describe Seamless

Re: Show HN: IOU – Split shared expenses

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Post by knowledge-clay » Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 4:12 PM UTC

jancborchardt wrote: post #48

For small apps like these, sign up is really a pain. That is why a friend and I have been working on a simplified version, which is mostly based on links so you can also easy share a tab: https://grouptabs.net We also try to keep the interface very simple, and it works offline.

Very cool! Without sign up, how do you deal with spam?

Re: Show HN: IOU – Split shared expenses

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Post by Freak_NL » Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 4:29 PM UTC

shhsshs wrote: post #37

Freak_NL wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please read up on present day email address validation. If you have a regex that is doing more than ^.+@.+$, then you are doing it wrong. Don't validate the address beyond looking for an '@' in the string; just send an email with a confirmation link to see if it actually works.

I prefer the true email validation regex: https://regex101.com/r/iE0rF5/1

I feel bad for the developers who run into that monstrosity and actually implement it.

Re: Show HN: IOU – Split shared expenses

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Post by kickopotomus » Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 4:45 PM UTC

Interesting solution. My coworker created a similar app that aims to reduce debt complexity over time for a group.

Ex. 1: Alice owes Bob $10. Bob owes Alice $5. So Alice really just owes Bob $5

Ex. 2: Alice owes Bob $10, Bob owes Charlie $5, and Charlie owes Alice $5. This can also be reduced such that Alice just owes Bob $5.

We use it to track who owes who and who is up next to buy lunch. https://github.com/famish99/cuenta