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Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by toddmorey » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 3:50 PM UTC

ugh wrote: post #50

Arrrg! No way of uninstalling apps in one central location. Why, Apple, why? There is this nice list of installed apps, why doesn’t it have an uninstall button? It doesn’t make any sense. I guess you are expected to drag apps to the trash like before? That sucks.

I realized something that I think is even bigger than uninstalling: There's no software trial mechanism in the App Store. That's always been the spirit of shareware (and a lot of hosted services, too). You install it, kick the tires, and then decide on purchasing before the trial is done. But here, even programs available for trial on the actual developer sites seem only to be available for instant purchase. (The equivalent to a trial period on the iphone I guess is the lite version of an app. I wonder if that will start to be the dominant approach for Mac software, too.)

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by astrange » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 3:52 PM UTC

pmjordan wrote: post #44

rimantas wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe. Never had any problems with it, be it Windows (long time ago) or Mac (since 2004).

Do you use the Store and iDevice syncing parts of it at all? The Store always has me running around in circles unless I know exactly what I'm after and can search for it directly. The back button and breadcrumbs often behave contrary to expectation, and for some reason there only is a global search. The store also seems excruciatingly slow; I assume the servers are all located in North America and the content isn't o…

File more bugs: http://bugreporter.apple.com/

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by sjs » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 3:55 PM UTC

pclark wrote: post #2

Is it just me or is the .app an abomination of a UI? Why does Apple now have three different window control styles? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20635/Screenshots/r3da.png Why are there back buttons ("like a browser") but you can't click hold to get the contextual drop down? The navigation (Featured, Top Charts, etc) are so far away from the other controls (Back and Forward) its insanely awkward to use. It feels kind of .…

Better not look at Twitter for Mac (aka. Tweetie 2) ...

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 3:56 PM UTC

vokoda wrote: post #38

Anyone else feel like https://chrome.google.com/webstore makes this seem old-fashioned? Seriously who's going to be running software on their local machine a year from now (apart from hackers obviously).

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Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by preek » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 3:56 PM UTC

microtonal wrote: post #66

rimantas wrote: post #53

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I don't know. Let's say I wan't to host it myself, I'd pay about $240 per year for Linode VPS.

I'd pay nothing, and host it on GitHub. In fact I, and many others do.

The OP said "Let's say I wan't to host it myself". So his pricing is right.

And the new appstore doesn't stop anyone from hosting their OSS on github - even for Macs. The appstore is for the average user; github is for the better than average programmer.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by terrbold » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 3:56 PM UTC

seiha wrote: post #71

rimantas wrote: post #45

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What are you talking about? I own several programs I bought before Mac App Store launched and store shows them as installed. I am pretty sure, that if you delete an app and then try to "buy" it again, you will get the same as in iOS App Store: a prompt that you already own this app and suggestion to redownload it.

I just deleted CoverSutra which I purchased this morning off the App Store and it went from "Installed" to "Reinstall" or "Not Installed" (I can't really remember which) and I was able to reinstall it with one click and it came flying back into my dock. Pretty darn easy if you ask me. However, I'm not sure if the purchases are stored locally in the app itself/cloud? Say, If I just got a brand new machine, would my ap…

The site suggests that you'd be covered: "You can install apps on every Mac you use and even download them again. This is especially convenient when you buy a new Mac and want to load it with apps you already own."

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by vokoda » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 3:57 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #62

vokoda wrote: post #38

Anyone else feel like https://chrome.google.com/webstore makes this seem old-fashioned? Seriously who's going to be running software on their local machine a year from now (apart from hackers obviously).

Apple Remote Desktop, Aperture, etc. aren't going to run in the browser anytime soon.

Hah, so rimantas & ceejayoz both work at Apple.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by zavulon » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 3:58 PM UTC

statictype wrote: post #22

evilmushroom wrote: post #4

As long as this doesn't become the only way for me to put apps on my Mac. :P

It's not. The traditional method(s) will still work. For me the main selling point of the centralized app store is that you get all updates in a single place instead of having each app spawn it's own update mechanism.

> It's not. The traditional method(s) will still work.

For now. I'm willing to bet any amount that in 5 years (most likely a lot sooner) this will be the only "legal" way to install software on your Mac (and you'll probably need to jailbreak your Mac to install apps through command line or something).

In another 5 years or so, Windows will follow.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by ceejayoz » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 4:01 PM UTC

vokoda wrote: post #97

ceejayoz wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Remote Desktop, Aperture, etc. aren't going to run in the browser anytime soon.

Hah, so rimantas & ceejayoz both work at Apple.

Man, do I ever wish.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by fwdbureau » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 4:01 PM UTC

J3L2404 wrote: post #82

fwdbureau wrote: post #78

Call me old fashioned, but I fail to see how implementing a corporate middleman between developers and users can be a progress... OK, from a developer's stand point, this could be really beneficial (distribution, centralization etc), but as a user, it feels like seeing independent record stores about to be crushed by a shiny new Virgin Megastore. I can't help to hope this will be an immense failure

Absolute nonsense. Users don't want to search through multiple websites, use paypal and drag icons into the application folder. You will be disappointed - users will love this.

Yes, you are probably right. But then, it's just a feeling, and feelings can be pretty nonsensical sometimes. I've been an enthusiastic mac user for 20 years, now i'm surprised to realize I slowly grew to completely distrust and dislike apple's vision of what the computer ecosystem should be. File this under 'Snobbish rantings of a disappointed user' ;-)