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Walmart sues Tesla over fires at stores fitted with its solar panels

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Re: Walmart sues Tesla over fires at stores fitted with its solar panels

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Post by kryogen1c »

NetBeck wrote: post #33

>totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket losses, Walmart said in the lawsuit. This amount is immaterial for each party involved.

I wonder if theres any danger of walmart being declared a vexatious litigant, since this amount is clearly nonsense. If their concern is damage from public opinion, aren't they required to quantify the damages? I don't think the court appreciates being used only as a tool for public opinion.

As is probably obvious to those with any legal knowledge, IANAL

Re: Walmart sues Tesla over fires at stores fitted with its solar panels

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Post by jmb12686 »

And yet, somehow TSLA is only down 1.6% in after market hour trading today (this news broke after mkt close). TSLA, appears to have irrationally exuberant investors.

A (nearly) irrelevant comparison; WMT, a profitable enterprise, is down 1.53% at mkt close today, didn't experience any negative news today, and a core aspect of their business model doesn't explode into flames.

Re: Walmart sues Tesla over fires at stores fitted with its solar panels

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Post by dmead »

agumonkey wrote: post #71
nominated1 wrote: post #39

A friend of mine is a union electrician with 15 years in the trade. He’s helped install dozens of solar farms across Northern California. One thing I found interesting/unnerving was that apparently the spacing tolerances between panels is quite low. He said it’s their biggest concern when it comes to fires. So, maintenance seems like a must. Especially on rooftops or structures that will naturally “settle” over time.…

lack of clearance below caused overheating and fire ?

lack of clearance between panels. if a roof settles a bit after construction it might flex down reducing the space between panels. (i think)

Re: Walmart sues Tesla over fires at stores fitted with its solar panels

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Post by hedora »

briandear wrote: post #75
whamlastxmas wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah Walmart is really a bastion of moral integrity in corporate America

Examples of where it’s not, in comparison to other similar companies?

Walmart’s “controversy and criticism” section on Wikipedia links to its own page (which I’ve never seen before): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Walmart

> Criticisms include charges of racial and gender discrimination,[1][2][3] foreign product sourcing, treatment of product suppliers, environmental practices,[4] the use of public subsidies, and the company's spying on its employees.[5]

Re: Walmart sues Tesla over fires at stores fitted with its solar panels

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Post by jaimex2 »

jmb12686 wrote: post #82

And yet, somehow TSLA is only down 1.6% in after market hour trading today (this news broke after mkt close). TSLA, appears to have irrationally exuberant investors. A (nearly) irrelevant comparison; WMT, a profitable enterprise, is down 1.53% at mkt close today, didn't experience any negative news today, and a core aspect of their business model doesn't explode into flames.

Probably because they dont make Solar panels anymore and the panels in question are well out of warranty.

Re: Walmart sues Tesla over fires at stores fitted with its solar panels

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Post by inflatableDodo »

metalliqaz wrote: post #10
protomyth wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“This is a breach of contract action arising from years of gross negligence and failure to live up to industry standards by Tesla with respect to solar panels that Tesla designed, installed, and promised to operate and maintain safely on the roofs of hundreds of Walmart stores,” Tesla seems to be the operator and maintainer. I would expect a contract has maintenance as a flat fee per year if it is anything like other…

As alleged by Walmart. Failure due to rushed, shoddy work is definitely Tesla's M.O., but Walmart is also not exactly the most credible source, given their history.

Fairly hard to invent seven roof fires in retail premises and Tesla's first act when they took over Solar City was to massacre the sales department. That means that things had got so bad in there that taking money from new customers was not worth the risk, given the product.

Re: Walmart sues Tesla over fires at stores fitted with its solar panels

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Post by jmb12686 »

jaimex2 wrote: post #86
jmb12686 wrote: post #82

And yet, somehow TSLA is only down 1.6% in after market hour trading today (this news broke after mkt close). TSLA, appears to have irrationally exuberant investors. A (nearly) irrelevant comparison; WMT, a profitable enterprise, is down 1.53% at mkt close today, didn't experience any negative news today, and a core aspect of their business model doesn't explode into flames.

Probably because they dont make Solar panels anymore and the panels in question are well out of warranty.

Ok, let's exclude solar panels. WMT's business model doesn't include extreme capacity Li-ion chemical bombs traveling at highway speeds.

To be fair, I admire and hope one day to afford a Tesla. But the risks are clear. High capacity Li-ion batteries have high risks and incident rates of explosion.

Re: Walmart sues Tesla over fires at stores fitted with its solar panels

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Post by egdod »

dmead wrote: post #83
agumonkey wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lack of clearance below caused overheating and fire ?

lack of clearance between panels. if a roof settles a bit after construction it might flex down reducing the space between panels. (i think)

How would that cause a fire?
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