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Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

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Re: Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

#101

It's hard to test theories when the underlying system constantly changes like it does in economics. Something that works today might not work tomorrow. A theory that looks sound when applied to yesteryears data might stop working before the sun rises. When many others try to apply the same tricks that made you successful the cake on that table might suddenly be divided into so many pieces that everybody will go home…

"Ceteris paribus" is the magic assumption under which it works.

Re: Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

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The emotions of your dog are not laws of nature. The "true market" is like "no true Scotsman" or "a closed system" or "a spherical cow on a frictionless plane". It assumes something that doesn't exist. In economics the influence of the things it assumes wrongly can be very significant. In physics wrong assumptions can also make the results wrong and a lot of work (or rather most work) is done on checking if all the a…

> The "true market" is like "no true Scotsman" or "a closed system" or "a spherical cow on a frictionless plane". Come on, what is physics about then? ;) Even today, systems like my dog are computationally infeasible to predict from the fundamentals, even though everything my dog does is a logical consequence of QED. That's why it is impossible to make progress without assuming a spherical cow and then traveling to e…

With regards to your dog, you should look into chaotic systems and the butterfly effect. Chaos here doesn't mean that anything is possible or that each outcome is equally likely. It refers to that the outcome changes greatly for even minimal changes of the inputs. Since we don't know everything at one point in time, we can only make limited predictions about a future state. No matter how precise we measure the system it will still behave chaotically.

To some extent this is also true for the economy which contains many feedback loops and meta-stable states. Even if we have the perfect theory it might still behave chaotically and might be as unpredictable as the weather.

Re: Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

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post #70

When I was in my twenties, I was part of the early "life coach blogger" culture. Now that I'm almost in my forties, I realize everything I wrote back then was bullshit. Earnest, but bullshit nonetheless. I'm much more cynical, but I'm also much more likely to just do what seems right and figure out the rest as I go. I don't read "best practices" or advice articles anymore. This is not to say that there is nothing to…

I’ve read a lot of time management/productivity books, and there seem to be only two things all of the authors agree on: write stuff down, and continuously tweak your system. The latter is usually mentioned offhand in the preface, as the author wants to deliver a fait accompli instead of just some tips and tricks.

The one true path is that there are no one true paths and that the most successful people seem to have the best managed iterative learning cycles (and write stuff down).

Re: Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

#104
post #73

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Maybe theories about what not to do are more solid.

Thank you for the validation! My purpose in life is to serve as an example of what not to do.

Sounds like fun!

But you have a paradox.

Do you demonstrate one big thing to not do and go out with a bang, winning a Darwin Award, or demonstrate many smaller (less lethal) things to not do? Which generates more net benefit for the world?

Always these career choices, and what kind of advice is there on that?

Re: Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

#105
Yes, all future success stories will play out differently.

And no, we have identified patterns accross many past successful cases so we think we can risk theorizing some formulae and advice.

Top of my mind: - Build something really wanted/needed - The A Team - Timing - Early/easy access to funding

And whether you like it or not: luck!

Re: Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

#106
post #77

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" ...know that there's demand for your product/service even if it's pretty manual to deliver early on. Then see how to automate. " So, Theranos? (I swear, if I had a quarter for every company that had "good product-market fit", I'd have...a lot of quarters. Possibly all of them.) Advice isn't terribly useful if you can only evaluate it after you've taken it, or not. P.S. Think I can get VC funding for my corner fruit…

No, because they didn't deliver anything early on, manually or otherwise. "Dont do crimes and fraud" is another great bit of advice IMO. Even healthcare isn't immune from market considerations. Might have been a good idea for regeneron to have done more market research before developing praulent for example.

no, they failed because they failed. If she'd won some of her gambles she'd be a hero.

My go-to ex-post example is FedEx, whose founder took their last month's payroll to Vegas, and won big enough to keep the business going. I was taught about that in business school (as an example of entrepreneurial spirit). Founders who do bad things and lose are convicted of fraud (and gambling with your employees' payroll is definitely fraud). Founders who do bad things and win are hailed as heroes.

Re: Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

#107

Emulating successful startups is folly. It's the myriad failures that you will never learn about that you should be concerned with. I'll just leave this here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

this. So much. Copying the success stories makes no sense unless you also understand how other people following the same strategies failed. You have to study the failures in order to understand the successes.

Re: Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

#108

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No, because they didn't deliver anything early on, manually or otherwise. "Dont do crimes and fraud" is another great bit of advice IMO. Even healthcare isn't immune from market considerations. Might have been a good idea for regeneron to have done more market research before developing praulent for example.

no, they failed because they failed. If she'd won some of her gambles she'd be a hero. My go-to ex-post example is FedEx, whose founder took their last month's payroll to Vegas, and won big enough to keep the business going. I was taught about that in business school (as an example of entrepreneurial spirit). Founders who do bad things and lose are convicted of fraud (and gambling with your employees' payroll is defi…

Tell the ceo of Novartis that winning the gamble of hiding that data was falsified for their recently approved drug makes him a hero. The drug is successful and scientifically the falsification fo the data didn't matter. But that doesn't mean that his reputation isn't getting dragged through the mud right now for condoning lying to the FDA

Re: Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

#109

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No, because they didn't deliver anything early on, manually or otherwise. "Dont do crimes and fraud" is another great bit of advice IMO. Even healthcare isn't immune from market considerations. Might have been a good idea for regeneron to have done more market research before developing praulent for example.

no, they failed because they failed. If she'd won some of her gambles she'd be a hero. My go-to ex-post example is FedEx, whose founder took their last month's payroll to Vegas, and won big enough to keep the business going. I was taught about that in business school (as an example of entrepreneurial spirit). Founders who do bad things and lose are convicted of fraud (and gambling with your employees' payroll is defi…

Tell that to the ceo of uber, who built a multi billion dollar company (even after the recent underperformance) but also did some bad things, and then got kicked out of his own company for doing those bad things.

Success isn't a guarantee of your sins being forgiven at all

Re: Most startup theory is ex-post, therefore bs

#110
post #87

> Do you think Musk copied that strategy from the business school he never went to. Elon Musk did his undergrad at Wharton. I guess the statement might be true if you mean "business school" to strictly mean a graduate MBA program. But Musk definitely took business classes that would have been nearly identical to those taken by MBAs.

Why cut the writer so much slack? Musk went to business school period. Undergraduate, graduate doesn't matter. Doesn't matter what classes he took either. That is not what is talked about in the statement. Curious why it even matters what is written by the OP given such a glaring and easy to figure out wrong mistake.

According to the OPs response to one of my comments in this thread, this is just his opinion in a short blog post, so we should "deal with it." Doesnt particularly incline me to cut him any slack or to trust that his arguments are made with any sort of rigor at all - it's like there's no sound foundation to even start a debate or engage with what he wrote.
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