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Why ElementaryOS Left Medium

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Re: Why ElementaryOS Left Medium

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Post by panpanna »

I thought this would be another rant, but this post was actually very well written and really informative. Key points are:

* Medium policy changes and how they affected readers and authors

* The importance of "owning" your own posts

* Possible alternatives to medium

* Issues with CDN wrt privacy

* Issues with commenting services

* Use of custom fonts

* Sharing to social media without being privacy invasive

* Google AMP, and how Google strong arms you into using their tech

... and much more. Highly recommended!!

Re: Why ElementaryOS Left Medium

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Post by fredthomsen »

agluszak wrote: post #25

Yeah, so basically modals, banners, reminders to use the app etc. (vide https://www.webdesignerdepot.com/cdn-origin/uploads/2019/06/... ) are new toolbars of the late 2010s ( http://i.imgur.com/X7ipc.png ). I don't like the direction where the Web is currently heading. Shutting down open APIs, forcing users to use the one and only official app (Facebook Messenger, Instagram, Reddit's starting to do so more and more),…

Well it is being fought on some level. More and more blogs have moved off of medium and hosting their own. I sense that rss is making a bit of a comeback as well

Re: Why ElementaryOS Left Medium

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Post by Sendotsh »

alanfranz wrote: post #10

My problem with Jekyll (or other static generators) is that it's not as straightforward as anything with a web gui, like wordpress or ghost (or medium or tumblr or...). You still need to handle things manually (e.g. the yaml front matter), the preview is not "out of the box", different plugins/extensions may add unpredictable behaviour, you need to setup a build/deploy pipeline, etc. - the experience is just not stre…

Yeah my dream blog is basically Ghost that deploys static posts when I hit Publish/Update. I’ve been slowly working on something like that for myself.

Re: Why ElementaryOS Left Medium

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Post by lookingsideways »

Sendotsh wrote: post #64
alanfranz wrote: post #10

My problem with Jekyll (or other static generators) is that it's not as straightforward as anything with a web gui, like wordpress or ghost (or medium or tumblr or...). You still need to handle things manually (e.g. the yaml front matter), the preview is not "out of the box", different plugins/extensions may add unpredictable behaviour, you need to setup a build/deploy pipeline, etc. - the experience is just not stre…

Yeah my dream blog is basically Ghost that deploys static posts when I hit Publish/Update. I’ve been slowly working on something like that for myself.

Have you looked into doing just that? There are a number of options and more arriving all the time.

https://ghost.org/docs/api/v2/gatsby/

https://ghost.org/docs/api/v2/eleventy/

https://ghost.org/integrations/netlify/

Re: Why ElementaryOS Left Medium

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Post by dylan604 »

artsyca wrote: post #50
Nextgrid wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As users, a step in the right direction would be to vote with your wallet, not use nasty services and prefer respectful services wherever possible. As engineers & designers, we need to stop being complicit and building this shit nor working for such awful companies. If the majority of engineers become ethical then companies like Facebook, Google, etc will have a hard time hiring people to do their dirty work.

Groupthink, impostor syndrome and 'fitting-in-ism' rule the day Nextgrid, there's no chance you're going to get a fresh grad out of university fighting for 'ethics' when they're too busy jumping hoops for their management overlords

Or more simply just trying to make rent, school loan payments, etc. When you're broke, ethics are hard to keep when someone is promising lots of money.

Re: Why ElementaryOS Left Medium

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Post by justaguyhere »

agluszak wrote: post #25

Yeah, so basically modals, banners, reminders to use the app etc. (vide https://www.webdesignerdepot.com/cdn-origin/uploads/2019/06/... ) are new toolbars of the late 2010s ( http://i.imgur.com/X7ipc.png ). I don't like the direction where the Web is currently heading. Shutting down open APIs, forcing users to use the one and only official app (Facebook Messenger, Instagram, Reddit's starting to do so more and more),…

As users, I guess we can start with paying for good content, tools, apps etc. Most of us don't even pay for something as important as email, and then complain about Google's non existent support for GMail etc.

The other thing we could do is intentionally support good, honest indie makers over mega corps (but there is no guarantee they won't sell to mega corps).

Re: Why ElementaryOS Left Medium

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Post by e_proxus »

zubspace wrote: post #30
alanfranz wrote: post #10

My problem with Jekyll (or other static generators) is that it's not as straightforward as anything with a web gui, like wordpress or ghost (or medium or tumblr or...). You still need to handle things manually (e.g. the yaml front matter), the preview is not "out of the box", different plugins/extensions may add unpredictable behaviour, you need to setup a build/deploy pipeline, etc. - the experience is just not stre…

I tried Hugo before but came to the same conclusion. The simplicity draw me into trying it, but in my opinion the solution is not streamlined. That's why i finally settled for a Flat File CMS [1], in my case Grav [2]. Like with hugo you get total control. And with most of them you get a single web interface to administrate the site, manage extensions and write blog entries. And you still have the possibility to git p…

I would love something with a UI like Grav to edit and create my site, but with a static web page export to publish it. I'm fine with running the UI only locally on my computer so even a desktop app would be fine.

Re: Why ElementaryOS Left Medium

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Post by e_proxus »

lookingsideways wrote: post #65
Sendotsh wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah my dream blog is basically Ghost that deploys static posts when I hit Publish/Update. I’ve been slowly working on something like that for myself.

Have you looked into doing just that? There are a number of options and more arriving all the time. https://ghost.org/docs/api/v2/gatsby/ https://ghost.org/docs/api/v2/eleventy/ https://ghost.org/integrations/netlify/

It feels a bit overkill to pay $29 per month just for a hosted blog UI. And if you're running Ghost yourself on a server or on your computer, it's not really a static site anymore.

Re: Why ElementaryOS Left Medium

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Post by tobr »

thelittleone wrote: post #56
pjc50 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adblocking is a good start. For physical products .. it's a lot harder. I don't want to go full "no ethical consumption under capitalisim", since that's useless, but basically everything that isn't specifically marketed as ethical probably is doing something wrong in the supply chain somewhere, and half of the "ethical" claims are dubious too.

> I don't want to go full "no ethical consumption under capitalism" True but one step at a time in the right direction is all it takes for change. Say if I got shafted by Expedia. I would like to add them to my "do not buy" list and have their other brands (e.g. orbitz, travelocity etc) added to the do not buy list. Could make it social so that if my sister got shafted by some company I could see that too and opt for…

Is there a way to restrict your card so you can’t buy things from certain vendors? Then you could subscribe to a list of boycotts based on which ethical questions are important to you.

I’m not sure how else to keep track of everything you want to vote-with-your-wallet against.

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