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A Bid to Maintain One of the World’s Oldest Culinary Traditions

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Re: A Bid to Maintain One of the World’s Oldest Culinary Traditions

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Post by iak8god »

tathougies wrote: post #10
iak8god wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hasn't white supremacy been a leading cause of cultural extinctions at least since the age of imperialism? > If the farsis do not preserve their culture, we do not owe it to them to do so. I don't feel I owe anything to this group, but we owe it to humanity to preserve a diversity of ways to be in and think about this world.

Yes and before that it was Mongolian supremacy and before that parsi supremacy. In other words, cultures die and new ones form. We do not owe it to the world to preserve existing diversity. Sure take down artificial barriers to societal continuity for those who want it. That's human rights not particular to any group of people. But diversity is not something to be preserved. That's a regressively conservative approac…

> We do not owe it to the world to preserve existing diversity.

How about if we compromise and just stop actively destroying it?

> But diversity is not something to be preserved.

Well, I want it to be preserved. The world becomes a much sadder and less interesting place if we all think and behave the same.

Re: A Bid to Maintain One of the World’s Oldest Culinary Traditions

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Post by 9nGQluzmnq3M »

Unpopular opinion: the value of a culture is largely in the novelty it can offer to others. (This is explained in the article itself with the "adding sugar to milk" parable.)

So the worthwhile parts of Parsi culture, such as the food, will be preserved by other non-Parsis, and despite the doomsday tones of the article this is already happening with chains like Sodabottleopenerwala [1] carrying the torch. Sure, it will be mutated and transformed in the process, but it will still enrich the fabric of the world, in the way that austere Japanese sushi has paved the way for crispy tiger rolls in the United States.

[1] https://www.sodabottleopenerwala.in/

Re: A Bid to Maintain One of the World’s Oldest Culinary Traditions

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Post by throwmebaby »

nimbius wrote: post #9

>you must come on a Wednesday, and you must be invited. Only members and their guests are permitted to enter, and membership is granted only to Parsis. I for one am not moved to preserve such an exclusionary cuisine. Crap like this is why creative commons, copyleft, and the GPL came into existence.

Agree, wouldn't mind if they disappeared for good. It's pretty much low key racism, but somehow acceptable.

Re: A Bid to Maintain One of the World’s Oldest Culinary Traditions

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Post by bruth »

nimbius wrote: post #9

>you must come on a Wednesday, and you must be invited. Only members and their guests are permitted to enter, and membership is granted only to Parsis. I for one am not moved to preserve such an exclusionary cuisine. Crap like this is why creative commons, copyleft, and the GPL came into existence.

My comment adds no value to the thread but are you really applying the concept of software licenses to an eatery? This is a classic technique for generating buzz and demand. Many many restaurants do it. People are fine with it, no harm is done. It does not violate any rights. Owners can choose to serve whom they please.

Re: A Bid to Maintain One of the World’s Oldest Culinary Traditions

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Post by throwmebaby »

bruth wrote: post #14
nimbius wrote: post #9

>you must come on a Wednesday, and you must be invited. Only members and their guests are permitted to enter, and membership is granted only to Parsis. I for one am not moved to preserve such an exclusionary cuisine. Crap like this is why creative commons, copyleft, and the GPL came into existence.

My comment adds no value to the thread but are you really applying the concept of software licenses to an eatery? This is a classic technique for generating buzz and demand. Many many restaurants do it. People are fine with it, no harm is done. It does not violate any rights. Owners can choose to serve whom they please.

>Owners can choose to serve whom they please.

So...can I open a Whites Only restaurant?

Re: A Bid to Maintain One of the World’s Oldest Culinary Traditions

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Post by shriphani »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #3

Parsis are amazing. Zoroaster! Incredible. I can't believe how much cultural destruction occurs today -- simply through forces of homogenisation.

Well they do have a very strict definition for who is zoroastrian. If marrying outside the faith cuts off the entire bloodline from the faith it is not going to last very long.

Re: A Bid to Maintain One of the World’s Oldest Culinary Traditions

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Post by notacode »

tathougies wrote: post #10
iak8god wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hasn't white supremacy been a leading cause of cultural extinctions at least since the age of imperialism? > If the farsis do not preserve their culture, we do not owe it to them to do so. I don't feel I owe anything to this group, but we owe it to humanity to preserve a diversity of ways to be in and think about this world.

Yes and before that it was Mongolian supremacy and before that parsi supremacy. In other words, cultures die and new ones form. We do not owe it to the world to preserve existing diversity. Sure take down artificial barriers to societal continuity for those who want it. That's human rights not particular to any group of people. But diversity is not something to be preserved. That's a regressively conservative approac…

Yes, indeed And back to the good old days when Buffalo bill was the good one.

Re: A Bid to Maintain One of the World’s Oldest Culinary Traditions

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Post by liability »

bruth wrote: post #14
nimbius wrote: post #9

>you must come on a Wednesday, and you must be invited. Only members and their guests are permitted to enter, and membership is granted only to Parsis. I for one am not moved to preserve such an exclusionary cuisine. Crap like this is why creative commons, copyleft, and the GPL came into existence.

My comment adds no value to the thread but are you really applying the concept of software licenses to an eatery? This is a classic technique for generating buzz and demand. Many many restaurants do it. People are fine with it, no harm is done. It does not violate any rights. Owners can choose to serve whom they please.

> "People are fine with it, "

Then who are you responding to?

Re: A Bid to Maintain One of the World’s Oldest Culinary Traditions

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Post by rayiner »

bruth wrote: post #14
nimbius wrote: post #9

>you must come on a Wednesday, and you must be invited. Only members and their guests are permitted to enter, and membership is granted only to Parsis. I for one am not moved to preserve such an exclusionary cuisine. Crap like this is why creative commons, copyleft, and the GPL came into existence.

My comment adds no value to the thread but are you really applying the concept of software licenses to an eatery? This is a classic technique for generating buzz and demand. Many many restaurants do it. People are fine with it, no harm is done. It does not violate any rights. Owners can choose to serve whom they please.

If a restaurant did it in the US, it would be illegal discrimination on the basis of national origin. This particular restaurant would only fly depending on whether they could qualify as a private club exempt from the Civil Rights Act.
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