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Wireless Carrier Throttling of Online Video Is Pervasive: Study

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Re: Wireless Carrier Throttling of Online Video Is Pervasive: Study

#11

I’m reminded of a comment I read a few days ago from someone that has their own small isp that said bandwidth was basically an inconsequential cost for them. Throttling like this is penny pinching of the highest order. How do we get the benefits of competition if every company is doing it?

Shannon-Hartley is a harsh mistress. There is only so much wireless capacity especially when you have a bunch of phones close to each other.

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#12
post #4

I keep thinking I see this on my wired (Comcast) connection too. Stuff just behaves too strangely for it to be anything else. One video provider will get slow. Switch to the mobile connection and it's fine. Switch to another site on the wired connection, that's fine too. They've made it perfectly clear they're unhappy I won't pay them an extra $100+/month for 900 channels of crap over and over.

Same phenomenon for me in southern Ontario. My ISP (Start.ca) is using Rogers' infrastructure. Evenings equal poor streaming video performance on all sites despite an otherwise-perfect connection. If I connect to a VPN, video performance mysteriously improves instantly.

If I were of a suspicious mind, I'd wonder if Rogers is pulling some backend shenanigans to discourage cord-cutting.

Re: Wireless Carrier Throttling of Online Video Is Pervasive: Study

#13

if I were legislating this I'd mandate transparency before I mandated neutrality -- maybe consumers would be willing to pay up or switch to a provider that provided neutrality for streaming. one way for government to provide usable markets is to mandate good information without setting standards. NFLX is over neutrality for home internet (not sure about mobile), they're in every server cage maybe neutrality is the wr…

Most people do not have another reasonable option to switch to.

It surprises me that most people in the US wouldn't have at least one cable and one DSL option. After all, cable TV is available most places, and everyone has a phone line (or is at least wired for one).

Or is the issue rural locations which were never wired for cable because they all just got satellite dishes?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people do not have another reasonable option to switch to.

It surprises me that most people in the US wouldn't have at least one cable and one DSL option. After all, cable TV is available most places, and everyone has a phone line (or is at least wired for one). Or is the issue rural locations which were never wired for cable because they all just got satellite dishes?

I live 3 miles from downtown Austin, which has numerous internet options (Google Fiber, Spectrum, AT&T, and Grande), but the options in my apartment complex are:

* Spectrum (up to 400mbps)

* AT&T (5mbps dsl)

I technically do have some choice, but given that one of these is close to 100x faster than the other, and the pricing is fairly similar...

I think wireless isps and 5g are our best chance at disrupting this.

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#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people do not have another reasonable option to switch to.

It surprises me that most people in the US wouldn't have at least one cable and one DSL option. After all, cable TV is available most places, and everyone has a phone line (or is at least wired for one). Or is the issue rural locations which were never wired for cable because they all just got satellite dishes?

You shouldn't be too surprised. I live inside the Dallas/Ft Worth area and my options are for wired internet access are:

  1) 6mbit AT&T/SBC DSL internet
  2) 400mbit cableco internet
Not really much of a choice there.

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#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people do not have another reasonable option to switch to.

It surprises me that most people in the US wouldn't have at least one cable and one DSL option. After all, cable TV is available most places, and everyone has a phone line (or is at least wired for one). Or is the issue rural locations which were never wired for cable because they all just got satellite dishes?

I live in a large US city and have one cable provider as my only viable high speed option. The dsl provider which I would have preferred hasn't upgraded the last 50 meters of lines going to my house, and said they had no plans to. The top speed they could offer me was 3Mbps.

EDIT: In comparison, the same dsl provider on streets that have had their lines upgraded offers 100Mbps plans for about $30 less per month than the cable provider. So some homes actually do enjoy a little healthy competition, but it hasn't been enough to cause any changes in the cable plan pricing yet :(

Re: Wireless Carrier Throttling of Online Video Is Pervasive: Study

#18

if I were legislating this I'd mandate transparency before I mandated neutrality -- maybe consumers would be willing to pay up or switch to a provider that provided neutrality for streaming. one way for government to provide usable markets is to mandate good information without setting standards. NFLX is over neutrality for home internet (not sure about mobile), they're in every server cage maybe neutrality is the wr…

If you have a monopoly or duopoly, transparency doesn't really help. Your only service provider transparently screwing you doesn't give you an option to switch ...

Re: Wireless Carrier Throttling of Online Video Is Pervasive: Study

#20
If these streaming providers would actually provide consumers with effective tooling to determine if throttling is taking place, this would get a lot more traction. I fought with CenturyLink for 18 months collecting stats on overall network performance vs. throughput to YouTube because it was clear something was going on. It was a giant pain in the ass trying to come up with figures for YouTube.
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