This article is comparing the average salary of junior engineers (because H-1B employees tend to be junior, they move off of H-1B into green cards after a few years) with the average salary of software engineers as a whole.
H-1B Visa Most Used for 'Software Engineer,' 'Software Developer' Roles
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#12I might previously have argued that H-1Bs were causing a domino effect on the rest of US employment - their complete inability to negotiate higher salaries spilled over into the rest of the industry. However, I see now that such an argument is shortsighted. There is no evidence outside of my own conjecture to support such a thing and my frustration with my own experiences in the industry is causing me to scapegoat H-…
As someone who worked in the US with a H1-B, in my case it was because you'd not find someone with my particular skill at that point in time. I was also paid more than the employees at the company I was contracted to work at - because of my particular skill and I'd taken a pay cut to move to the US.
This is what the H1-B is/was supposed to be like. It does seem that it has been abused.
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#13Limited resource maximizing the price by the market selecting higher paying jobs to use it on. IMHO we need Federalism. The States should be given an allotment of work visas. Let them decide how many and who to give them out to.
Federalism would solve a lot of the country's problems.
No. Federalism creates most of the problems in the US: drug wars, invasions overseas, absurd military expending, reduced comparative advantages between states, the evil patents system, expensive medical care, etc.
The more concentrated the state apparatus, the more powerful the government and the less free and poor the people are.
-- correction: I meant centralized power, not federalism.
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#14I might previously have argued that H-1Bs were causing a domino effect on the rest of US employment - their complete inability to negotiate higher salaries spilled over into the rest of the industry. However, I see now that such an argument is shortsighted. There is no evidence outside of my own conjecture to support such a thing and my frustration with my own experiences in the industry is causing me to scapegoat H-…
Immigrants are what built the US recently (after the real Americans... the native ones). Why close the gates now? Please don't use them (or us; though I'm not in the US) as scapegoats; this is not just. No one should have a privilege to employment. You and your potential employer shall have the right to associate freely. They should be seen just as regular competitors [with really hard barriers of entry]. If anything…
What other artificial employment barriers do you advocate removing? They may not all be just or implemented particularly well, but I think there are some (e.g., child labour, work-health standards, etc.) that make sure the economy is serving society and not the other way around.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I were a VC I would invest huge in Mexico City talent development. Far more under-trained talent there and same time zone so remote from MC is temporally seamless.
Harder to find English speakers there, though. Plus, Mexico's government is a lot more uncertain than India's.
Investing in border towns in the U.S. could help solve the language issue. There's a large population of bilingual talent there
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#16This article is comparing the average salary of junior engineers (because H-1B employees tend to be junior, they move off of H-1B into green cards after a few years) with the average salary of software engineers as a whole.
>H-1B employees tend to be junior
Junior in the industry, or junior to doing work in the US on a visa?
I'm nearly a decade into my career and considering taking up work in the US coming from Canada -- is there a better way of starting work in the US as a dev?
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Federalism would solve a lot of the country's problems.
No. Federalism creates most of the problems in the US: drug wars, invasions overseas, absurd military expending, reduced comparative advantages between states, the evil patents system, expensive medical care, etc. The more concentrated the state apparatus, the more powerful the government and the less free and poor the people are. -- correction: I meant centralized power, not federalism.
I think you're misunderstanding what Federalism is.
FEDERALISM is the decentralization of the state apparatus - the idea that instead of one massive central government, you reserve certain powers to for the individual local or regional governments (States, in the US parlance)...which is what I believe the comment you're replying to is calling for.
The FEDERAL government is, in the US system, the massive central government, which is what I believe you're railing against.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Federalism would solve a lot of the country's problems.
No. Federalism creates most of the problems in the US: drug wars, invasions overseas, absurd military expending, reduced comparative advantages between states, the evil patents system, expensive medical care, etc. The more concentrated the state apparatus, the more powerful the government and the less free and poor the people are. -- correction: I meant centralized power, not federalism.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Immigrants are what built the US recently (after the real Americans... the native ones). Why close the gates now? Please don't use them (or us; though I'm not in the US) as scapegoats; this is not just. No one should have a privilege to employment. You and your potential employer shall have the right to associate freely. They should be seen just as regular competitors [with really hard barriers of entry]. If anything…
What other artificial employment barriers do you advocate removing? They may not all be just or implemented particularly well, but I think there are some (e.g., child labour, work-health standards, etc.) that make sure the economy is serving society and not the other way around.
Having to go through a lottery based visa system to work?
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#20This article is comparing the average salary of junior engineers (because H-1B employees tend to be junior, they move off of H-1B into green cards after a few years) with the average salary of software engineers as a whole.
>H-1B employees tend to be junior Junior in the industry, or junior to doing work in the US on a visa? I'm nearly a decade into my career and considering taking up work in the US coming from Canada -- is there a better way of starting work in the US as a dev?
Yes, the TN-1 visa.