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Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Dominance

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Re: Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Dominance

#11

Feels like anyone going head to head with Tesla is in for a hard time. It must be very hard to compete with the cachet of Tesla and the speed with which they improve their vehicles.

And compete with the vast network of superchargers Tesla's already established for themselves...

Electrify America is rolling out their own supercharger equivalent.

And in fact will soon have more 350kw chargers than Tesla.

Re: Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Dominance

#12

Feels like anyone going head to head with Tesla is in for a hard time. It must be very hard to compete with the cachet of Tesla and the speed with which they improve their vehicles.

Maybe. Compare the Mercedes EQC to the Tesla Model X. The EQC is quieter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13mNkRtdK84 The EQC has more sophisticated headlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZMNkMadYTQ And the EQC has voice control (although they really need a better triggering phrase than "Mercedes"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JTew1D5Tk8 I think Tesla's main problem now is that the major car companies will…

People have been saying this for 5 years now and Tesla didn’t even invent the electric car.

Also... who complains about how loud a Tesla is?

Re: Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Dominance

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Terrible article: 1) It's only about the US. 2) Tesla's big seller is the Model 3 which isn't a competitor for the Audi e-tron and I-Pace. And given the size difference probably isn't a competitor for the Model X either. 3) No one is claiming to be a Tesla killer since no one really has direct 3, X, S, Y competitors. The existing car companies are all off doing their own thing e.g. VW ID.3 (hatchback), Hyundai Kona (…

They are aimed at the same crowd who buy models X&S, and they didn't have much a dent yet here in Norway as well.

And Tesla is definitely still beating them.

But it's more than a little disingenuous to compare cars from different segments.

Re: Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Dominance

#15

According to the article, they have less range than a Tesla Model 3 and cost substantially more. That seems like a hard thing to sell.

They aren't competitors for the Model 3 but rather a Model Y. And not sure why people are so obsessed with range. It's the megapixels/megahertz spec nonsense again. People don't buy ICE cars based purely on MPG but also for exterior/interior design, quality, comfort, brand, support, seating capacity etc and most importantly what the car says about you as a person.

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Re: Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Dominance

#16

According to the article, they have less range than a Tesla Model 3 and cost substantially more. That seems like a hard thing to sell.

They aren't competitors for the Model 3 but rather a Model Y. And not sure why people are so obsessed with range. It's the megapixels/megahertz spec nonsense again. People don't buy ICE cars based purely on MPG but also for exterior/interior design, quality, comfort, brand, support, seating capacity etc and most importantly what the car says about you as a person.

People buy ICE cars knowing the petrol delivery infrastructure means they'll never run out of gas on a long trip. People are wary of short range electric vehicles because they might not find a charger in time, or the chargers they do find might be in use, and then they'll be stranded.

Re: Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Dominance

#17

According to the article, they have less range than a Tesla Model 3 and cost substantially more. That seems like a hard thing to sell.

They aren't competitors for the Model 3 but rather a Model Y. And not sure why people are so obsessed with range. It's the megapixels/megahertz spec nonsense again. People don't buy ICE cars based purely on MPG but also for exterior/interior design, quality, comfort, brand, support, seating capacity etc and most importantly what the car says about you as a person.

> People don't buy ICE cars based purely on MPG

Because range typically isn't a problem with ICE cars.

I really like the Honda e. It looks good and has good features:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEKq8jmckz0

But its number one problem is lack of range. Solid-state batteries with better energy density will solve that problem, but those batteries aren't here yet.

Re: Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Dominance

#18

According to the article, they have less range than a Tesla Model 3 and cost substantially more. That seems like a hard thing to sell.

They aren't competitors for the Model 3 but rather a Model Y. And not sure why people are so obsessed with range. It's the megapixels/megahertz spec nonsense again. People don't buy ICE cars based purely on MPG but also for exterior/interior design, quality, comfort, brand, support, seating capacity etc and most importantly what the car says about you as a person.

Range means less time messing around looking for charging, and less planning and waiting during long trips.

Re: Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Dominance

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Terrible article: 1) It's only about the US. 2) Tesla's big seller is the Model 3 which isn't a competitor for the Audi e-tron and I-Pace. And given the size difference probably isn't a competitor for the Model X either. 3) No one is claiming to be a Tesla killer since no one really has direct 3, X, S, Y competitors. The existing car companies are all off doing their own thing e.g. VW ID.3 (hatchback), Hyundai Kona (…

Every electric car slated to arrive has been called a Tesla killer in article after article, sometimes individually, often as a collective.

Several of them are targeting Tesla owners with discounts, ads at superchargers, etc... The companies clearly think they are competing with Tesla, especially since they don't want to compete with themselves (ICE models).

As for doing their own thing, most have a battery shortage and are confined to small cars with relatively small battery packs for now until more batteries are available (none of whom are vertically integrating production).

Re: Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Dominance

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According to the article, they have less range than a Tesla Model 3 and cost substantially more. That seems like a hard thing to sell.

They aren't competitors for the Model 3 but rather a Model Y. And not sure why people are so obsessed with range. It's the megapixels/megahertz spec nonsense again. People don't buy ICE cars based purely on MPG but also for exterior/interior design, quality, comfort, brand, support, seating capacity etc and most importantly what the car says about you as a person.

Range/MPG can certainly be a determining factor for many. Many people might even narrow their focus to certain models based on range/mpg and not even look at those that don't check their marks.

That's my experience anyway, maybe you can provide a source that says otherwise?

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