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Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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Re: Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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Google is what, a 3/4 TRILLION dollar company, based on market cap! It's absolutely unfathomable that they have such a prolific reputation of non-customer service and inability to contact them. Any other company would suffer massive consequences with customer service that poor. What will it take for them to turn this around? Maybe they believe they are too big for this to matter?

Class action lawsuit

Re: Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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Google seems to have missed the fact that they, unlike Apple, are not a monopoly. All it will take is for a few major players to start doing APK downloads OR someone to start an alternative, developer-friendly store with lower IAP margins, and they will quickly lose business.

Re: Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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IMHO, an ethical course of action for Google employees is: 1. quit your job 2. apologize to the global community of users and developers 3. give half your money to a charity

Who are you to say what's ethical or not?

We have not yet delegated that task to machines.

(You've asked an extraordinarily odd question. There's a context in which such a question might imply that the OP should look to God and religious texts for guidance rather than rely on their own reason, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you're not suggesting that the bible/Koran/Baghavad Gita/whatever offers words on the matter of Google employees and their relationship with their employer that supersede human judgement.)

Re: Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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Without knowing more about the "sophisticated anti-piracy system" employed by the app author, it's hard to determine if Google's claim of malicious behaviour is valid. This could be something as simple as bytecode obfuscation, or something as complex as scraping every bit of personal information available through possibly-questionable means and sending to an insecure server. Copy protection schemes are notoriously us…

Regardless of the reason, the fact that you can have your livelihood taken away without an explanation or human contact is pretty worrying.

Having a system that tells malware authors precisely what behavior triggered an alarm is also not great. There is no solution.

Re: Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of the reason, the fact that you can have your livelihood taken away without an explanation or human contact is pretty worrying.

What if the reason is they were scraping all your private data against the Terms of Service, and hiding it in obfuscated dynamic bytecode loading... if that was the case, you think it's still bad that they can be kicked off the app store? I mean, we only have the developer's word that they weren't shipping malware in these bytecode files, unless someone reverse engineers it (unlikely), or Google publicly explains the…

If that is the reason they were kicked off, why can't google just say so?

Re: Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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I'm the developer of a relatively popular app (50M+ on the Play Store) and have had very disappointing experiences with the Play Store, but in a rather opposite way from the OP: Once an app reaches a certain level of popularity, you begin to see "knock-off" apps, which are apps with a curiously similar name and icon (and screenshots and description), but which in fact don't do anything except blast the user with full…

+1 to this. I also have several apps in the Google Play Store. Unfortunately, the knock-off apps are all around our apps, sometimes ranking higher in popular keywords. Some even post a screenshot of our apps!

Heck, some apps are so bad that they ruin the reputation of the entire niche (for example, a document scanner app). If the first few apps that a user downloads does not scan documents, he's naturally assuming that no apps can do it.

Reporting those apps never worked, so I stopped reporting them. Instead, we now focus on improving our apps and hoping for the best.

Re: Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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I'm the developer of a relatively popular app (50M+ on the Play Store) and have had very disappointing experiences with the Play Store, but in a rather opposite way from the OP: Once an app reaches a certain level of popularity, you begin to see "knock-off" apps, which are apps with a curiously similar name and icon (and screenshots and description), but which in fact don't do anything except blast the user with full…

It's hard to feel sorry for anyone pushing apps and the removal of local app computing. It's like a theif accusing the other theives of being a theif.

The modern SaS enviroment is scam central taking advantage of the publics computer illiteracy. So color me skeptical.

Re: Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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post #60

Google is what, a 3/4 TRILLION dollar company, based on market cap! It's absolutely unfathomable that they have such a prolific reputation of non-customer service and inability to contact them. Any other company would suffer massive consequences with customer service that poor. What will it take for them to turn this around? Maybe they believe they are too big for this to matter?

If you're a Google Ads buyer, Google is easy to contact. If you're a mere Google products user, good luck getting help via their crowdsourced message boards...

What kind of google people are you contacting though? From what I have heard its very easy to contact someone who will help you set up your ads account to spend money but I imagine its a lot harder to find someone who can do anymore than show you how to use the product.

Re: Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of the reason, the fact that you can have your livelihood taken away without an explanation or human contact is pretty worrying.

Having a system that tells malware authors precisely what behavior triggered an alarm is also not great. There is no solution.

"Your app has been removed because it was found to be malware. Please reply to this message if you believe this to be a mistake." Doesn't help malware authors at all.

Re: Open letter from an Android developer to the Google Play team

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My developer account has been getting mails about "apps that are not compliant with permission requirements". The problem is that these are 3 year old, UNPUBLISHED apps. Turns out, you cannot delete old apps . You can only unpublish them. Google will still keep the app up if even one phone has the app installed. I wrote back saying that this is a years-old app that I no longer even have the source code to. The reply…

Can you just publish an empty APK (after creating the project) up to all of them? Or is that not how this works?

They probably lost the signing key along with the source code. Without the signing key, there's no way to update the app. Otherwise, they would simply upload an empty app with the same package name.
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