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Leaked Brexit Document Predicts 'Catastrophic Collapse' of U.K. Infrastructure

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Re: Leaked Brexit Document Predicts 'Catastrophic Collapse' of U.K. Infrastructure

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Post by esotericn »

ssl232 wrote: post #6

A peculiarity: the "south east" is the area most typically associated with the Conservatives and their voters, who have been in power for the past 9 years and who have driven most of the Brexit rhetoric. The south east is also nearest the Channel Tunnel and ferry ports to the continent, and so their food, drugs, etc. will suffer the least delay, least spoilage, etc. in the case of a "No Deal" Brexit.

I think that's over-egging it a bit.

You can drive from Dover to almost all of the mainland UK in 8 hours.

The Scottish Highlands will take a bit longer.

It'll be a problem, but I doubt being close to the port will make a difference.

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Post by throwaway122378 »

te_chris wrote: post #8
creaghpatr wrote: post #4

Political opposition leaked a scare document? Welcome to politics.

It’s a govt risk assessment document, not just “politics”. Assuming you’re a brexiteer....what exactly is the positive case for brexit now? Because no one I can hear is making it, merely saying it has to happen, like a visit to one’s in laws that destroys the economy and fractures society.

The positive case for brexit is no longer being a part of the EU.

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Post by don_neufeld »

trilila wrote: post #3
cybersnowflake wrote: post #2

The EU and the British establishment will do everything they can to punish the UK for their insolence. All the more reason it was a good idea to #Leave. Better to take whatever lumps that come now.

Agreed. The eu is basically a german/french dictatorship. The thing is, once the uk recovers after the leave event, many other eu countries will follow suit.

They won’t recover, that’s not how trade works.

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Post by onlingyding »

ssl232 wrote: post #6

A peculiarity: the "south east" is the area most typically associated with the Conservatives and their voters, who have been in power for the past 9 years and who have driven most of the Brexit rhetoric. The south east is also nearest the Channel Tunnel and ferry ports to the continent, and so their food, drugs, etc. will suffer the least delay, least spoilage, etc. in the case of a "No Deal" Brexit.

Well they'll also have to put up with 30 miles of lorries as ports are overrun. I'm sure through all the chaos though, people won't connect the dots.

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Post by untog »

beaner wrote: post #9

Haven't we seen from the steele dossier that these things can essentially be made up, outdated, or inaccurate, and then be leaked to a salivating press to push an agenda? I feel like this is a tired plot by now. There's no reason to take this seriously without more context and input from the counter-perspective.

So because one leaked document is controversial (and last I checked the Steele dossier isn't confirmed to be all that inaccurate) we should disregard all leaked communications? That feels like faulty logic.

Should we have dismissed Watergate because it was based on leaked information?

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Post by jfk13 »

Scaremongering headline; I thought NPR was better than that.

The document doesn't "predict" any such thing. It considers a number of worst-case scenarios of things that could happen, but that's a far cry from predicting that every worst-case scenario will actually come to pass.

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Post by throwaway122379 »

throwaway122378 wrote: post #12
te_chris wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a govt risk assessment document, not just “politics”. Assuming you’re a brexiteer....what exactly is the positive case for brexit now? Because no one I can hear is making it, merely saying it has to happen, like a visit to one’s in laws that destroys the economy and fractures society.

The positive case for brexit is no longer being a part of the EU.

Please elaborate as to exactly why that is a positive?

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway122378 wrote: post #12
te_chris wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a govt risk assessment document, not just “politics”. Assuming you’re a brexiteer....what exactly is the positive case for brexit now? Because no one I can hear is making it, merely saying it has to happen, like a visit to one’s in laws that destroys the economy and fractures society.

The positive case for brexit is no longer being a part of the EU.

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Post by beaner »

don_neufeld wrote: post #13
trilila wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The eu is basically a german/french dictatorship. The thing is, once the uk recovers after the leave event, many other eu countries will follow suit.

They won’t recover, that’s not how trade works.

EU is more than just a trade agreement and there is nothing preventing trade agreements between the UK and the EU from being developed post-brexit.
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