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California’s Biggest Cities Confront a ‘Defecation Crisis’

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Re: California’s Biggest Cities Confront a ‘Defecation Crisis’

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> Without wishing to return to the Elizabethan Poor Laws, we ought to consider what was lost when the courts discouraged Americans from thinking of “homelessness” in light of the old laws against vagrancy.

Ah, so we're back to imprisoning the homeless (at huge expense) rather than providing, say, public toilets or shelter facilities. Not only is the WSJ not learning from history, they don't want to learn from history.

That's because the article is written by this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_R._Kesler

Re: California’s Biggest Cities Confront a ‘Defecation Crisis’

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> Without wishing to return to the Elizabethan Poor Laws, we ought to consider what was lost when the courts discouraged Americans from thinking of “homelessness” in light of the old laws against vagrancy. Ah, so we're back to imprisoning the homeless (at huge expense) rather than providing, say, public toilets or shelter facilities. Not only is the WSJ not learning from history, they don't want to learn from history…

We need better mental health care, and cheaper housing.

Re: California’s Biggest Cities Confront a ‘Defecation Crisis’

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Could it be dogs or could it be people? What economic factors could lead people to stop picking up dog poop? Have poop bags gone so far up in price that it's impossible for the average person to purchase poop bags?

It's people.

Re: California’s Biggest Cities Confront a ‘Defecation Crisis’

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> Without wishing to return to the Elizabethan Poor Laws, we ought to consider what was lost when the courts discouraged Americans from thinking of “homelessness” in light of the old laws against vagrancy. Ah, so we're back to imprisoning the homeless (at huge expense) rather than providing, say, public toilets or shelter facilities. Not only is the WSJ not learning from history, they don't want to learn from history…

We need better mental health care, and cheaper housing.

Dr. Drew was on Scott Adam's podcast recently talking about this. Apparently even free housing is insufficient because most of the people relevant to this discussion will not accept even free housing. Nor will they accept mental healthcare even when provided for free. The only way to get them into the mental healthcare situations is to compel them by force, and that is not something people are interested in.

Correction: Scott Adams, not Rogan

Re: California’s Biggest Cities Confront a ‘Defecation Crisis’

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> Without wishing to return to the Elizabethan Poor Laws, we ought to consider what was lost when the courts discouraged Americans from thinking of “homelessness” in light of the old laws against vagrancy. Ah, so we're back to imprisoning the homeless (at huge expense) rather than providing, say, public toilets or shelter facilities. Not only is the WSJ not learning from history, they don't want to learn from history…

We need better mental health care, and cheaper housing.

Mental healthcare may be relevant to this issue. But the cost of housing is not.

These people cannot hold jobs because they are mentally ill. They need state provided institutional care, otherwise they will remain on the streets.

Re: California’s Biggest Cities Confront a ‘Defecation Crisis’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need better mental health care, and cheaper housing.

Dr. Drew was on Scott Adam's podcast recently talking about this. Apparently even free housing is insufficient because most of the people relevant to this discussion will not accept even free housing. Nor will they accept mental healthcare even when provided for free. The only way to get them into the mental healthcare situations is to compel them by force, and that is not something people are interested in. Correcti…

Dr. Drew hasn't been on Rogan

Re: California’s Biggest Cities Confront a ‘Defecation Crisis’

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> Without wishing to return to the Elizabethan Poor Laws, we ought to consider what was lost when the courts discouraged Americans from thinking of “homelessness” in light of the old laws against vagrancy. Ah, so we're back to imprisoning the homeless (at huge expense) rather than providing, say, public toilets or shelter facilities. Not only is the WSJ not learning from history, they don't want to learn from history…

Maybe in a Utopia the homeless would use shelters but many refuse to for very reasons.
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