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Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

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Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

#381

I've been a daily cannabis user for over a decade. I have a prescription for this, like millions of others with prescriptions for psychoactive medications without driving limitations. Would you send someone to prison for driving because they took their Adderall that morning? Cannabis is not like alcohol in regard to impairment of motor function and decision-making under the influence. Surely the same concentrations o…

There's nothing wrong with having a prescription for marijuana, even if the "prescription" is really just a state medical license provided by a sketchy doctor that you slip 200 USD once a year. But please stay off the roads while you're under "psychoactive" effects (read: high) . There are LEGAL drugs that are illegal to use while operating a motor vehicle.

Hundreds of millions of adult Americans use psychoactive substances on a daily basis (SSRI, MAOI, SNRI, Caffeine, Nicotine or worse, opiates / benzodiazepines) and are under no driving restrictions or legal ramifications for doing so.

They are subject to a warning in the commercial.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

#382
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just say what you mean? The prefixes you used are incomprehensible without the parentheticals following them ("(deliberate misuse)" etc.), so why not just use those? I'm not convinced it breaks down into three clean categories anyway.

>The prefixes you used are incomprehensible without the parentheticals following them I disagree. In the taxonomy of these things, being a twat is more impulsive misbehaviour, while being a cunt involves malicious aforethought and intent. There is a fairly clear meaning from that general usage. >I'm not convinced it breaks down into three clean categories anyway. I agree, but I didn't make it up and people tend to us…

I think your "general usage" is actually fairly specific to particular places and people. Without the explanations, I wouldn't have gleaned the meanings you're assigning (I'm a native English speaker from NZ). It seems pointlessly obfuscated and offensive to me.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

#383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That study [0] had so many flaws it's not even funny. 1. It only had 12 participants 2. One of those participants was excluded from the final results 3. They didn't test the participants' (or a separate group's) driving ability while under the influence of alcohol (they used a simulator, so it would have been fine), and so you really can't use the results to make any comparisons between dehydration and alcohol use 4.…

I kind of love that biased test results funded by Big Water are a thing.

Oh trust me, "Big Water" is very much a thing. I've met a guy who runs a coke bottling plant; he could hardly believe his luck. They literally just run the existing stuff dry, and it's got massive margins.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

#384
post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The prefixes you used are incomprehensible without the parentheticals following them I disagree. In the taxonomy of these things, being a twat is more impulsive misbehaviour, while being a cunt involves malicious aforethought and intent. There is a fairly clear meaning from that general usage. >I'm not convinced it breaks down into three clean categories anyway. I agree, but I didn't make it up and people tend to us…

I think your "general usage" is actually fairly specific to particular places and people. Without the explanations, I wouldn't have gleaned the meanings you're assigning (I'm a native English speaker from NZ). It seems pointlessly obfuscated and offensive to me.

Thought I'd go find out if I was being particularly insensitive or if people were clutching their pearls a bit tightly. Couldn't find many examples, but here they are in the wild and not causing any noticable problems.

Firstly, twatproof, from reply #14 in the Festool owner's group to a question about dovetails:

>"I just had a go with the Festool jig and it's the most twatproof solution I've ever seen."

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/hand-tools/advice-sought-...

and secondly, cuntproof, on twitter, with someone called Wiryjack describing the term to the award winning writer and naturalist Helen Macdonald:

>"A mechanic I used to know described things as 'cuntproof', which I took to mean foolproof but extra robust to deter the malicious as well as the stupid."

https://twitter.com/Wiryjack/status/938755264815271938

I may note that Helen Macdonald apparently considers cuntproof to be an excellent term, well worth adding to her vocabulary.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

#385

I had no idea this was such a polemic topic. Police have been doing roadside saliva-swab tests for cannabis, ecstasy and meth where I live for years now https://adf.org.au/insights/roadside-drug-testing/ Is it because it's a breathalyser? My personal feeling is that lumping those three drugs in together (along with alcohol) is a blunt approach (which admittedly is often what the law favours) - I'd much rather be shar…

It's a problem if it measures use instead of impairment especially where use is legal even more so if use is medical. You'd find it pretty stupid if a breathalyzer sunk your life where you had a beer yesterday or 2 oz of beer 30 minutes ago.

Some of the Australian jurisdictions in which mobile drug testing has been implemented don't see this as a problem: as well as driving while impaired, there is a separate offence for having illicit drugs in your system which is designed for cases where the user may not actually be impaired [1] [2].

[1]: https://www.legalaid.nsw.gov.au/publications/factsheets-and-...

[2]: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-06/nsw-announces-drug-dr...

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

#386
This is not going to work. Just walking through a cloud someone exhales at you would make you test positive. Being at a party would make you test positive.

Honest question, why can't companies seem to come up with ideas that don't involve violating the rights of people?

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

#387
post #2

Have you considered not selling technology to cops?

Yes! There has been interest from safety-sensitive industries such as transportation, energy, manufacturing, construction, and oil & gas to use our device to help prevent life-threatening accidents in the workplace.

Let's modify the above somewhat: Have you considered not selling to cops in places where marijuana use is illegal? You have a nice traffic safety story for Canada, but aren't you afraid that in the US police will just "randomly" stop and test people (anywhere, not just drivers) they would like to incriminate?

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

#389
post #31

I don't understand the negativity in many of the comments here. I'm all for legalization of marijuana, but I actually think that the inability to test for people driving high is a very reasonable argument against legalization. I generally feel that people should be able to make their own choices, but not if those choices involve driving a 3000 pound piece of metal down the highway while impaired. Yes, we need to be c…

The first question I have is whether driving high on cannabis is less safe than sober. Then there is a question of levels of impairment. I wouldn't be surprised that someone lightly stoned is actually safer than sober due to being more patient with performance degrading the more stoned they are. Treating cannabis like alcohol is not the correct approach. I sold find it better to think of it like coffee. Some coffee before driving is fine but large jitter inducing amounts is not.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

#390
Thx for letting cops and other entities bust more people with your funny device.

Sorry I got absolutely no respect for this invention of yours as I know people personally who suffer from law enforcement's false positives. You'll only help them with it but I guess making money is more important today.

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