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Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

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Post by legitster »

wolco wrote: post #72
Noah_SannTek wrote: post #56

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Hey! We appreciate the support, and I hope that this response will highlight the fact that we're engineers by trade, and are completely data-driven. We're not going to be selling anything, until there's the peer-reviewed research to back it up. Here's where we're at: - Speed isn't so much of a problem. Accuracy is by-far the most important piece of this puzzle. I think it will be between 12-18 months until we see rea…

This could be used routinely in placed where any drug use is illegal more easily compared to a breathe test which could result in mass arrests.

IANAL: As I understand you can't use a breathalyzer test without a warrant.

Even when driving, you have the right to revoke it (other bad things happen, like taking your license away, but you can still refuse).

Taking a random standerby and breathalyzing him without consent or a warrant would be wrongful search and seizure.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

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Post by InitialLastName »

wolco wrote: post #69
davidw wrote: post #63

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Not opposed to legal cannabis at all, but as a cyclist, I'm very opposed to impaired driving whether it's booze, pot, or staring at a mobile phone.

What about coffee, sugar or people driving with headaches? Those three can really affect my driving.

Past that, if you've been awake for 18 hours, you're very likely to be impaired to the same extent as a 0.08 BAC.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

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Post by davidw »

chadash wrote: post #31

I don't understand the negativity in many of the comments here. I'm all for legalization of marijuana, but I actually think that the inability to test for people driving high is a very reasonable argument against legalization. I generally feel that people should be able to make their own choices, but not if those choices involve driving a 3000 pound piece of metal down the highway while impaired. Yes, we need to be c…

Legalization is probably more likely to bring about good testing, with a bit of lag time, and hopefully lead to fewer people driving while high, which some people will do even when it's not legal.

Also, FWIW, if it's legal, in some places you can even order it for delivery ( http://dutchie.com ) which certainly beats being out on the road.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

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Post by cmiles74 »

davidw wrote: post #63
cmiles74 wrote: post #50

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It's legal where I live and the drivers on the road have not changed significantly. For those opposed to legal cannabis use, it's easy to blame any traffic infraction on cannabis. I don't think we have data available that backs up that hypothesis. In areas where cannabis has been legalized for recreational use, the incidence of traffic accidents has remained the same. https://www.nber.org/papers/w24417

Not opposed to legal cannabis at all, but as a cyclist, I'm very opposed to impaired driving whether it's booze, pot, or staring at a mobile phone.

I'm a cyclist as well and impairment via cell-phone or hands-free call has been the most threatening for myself personally. And every parking lot ever is liking gambling with my life.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

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Post by SannTek »

alex_young wrote: post #48

Are we even sure this is a problem? There seems to be no consensus on the impact of driving on THC [0]. THC has neurocognitive impacts, but those tend to be small and long lasting. It would be strange to tell users they can't drive for 30 days or longer. [0] https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/apr/26/driving-whil...

The science is actually pretty concrete regarding the impairing effects of THC. Because cannabis is a schedule 1 drug, it can be very difficult for researchers to get their hands on real world doses of THC. Instead, they use very low doses that are not relevant to what is actually sold at dispensaries. For a really good review of all things cannabis impairment, I would recommend looking through the following report by the Cannabis Control Commission in Massachusetts. A little long, but a lot of good information. https://mass-cannabis-control.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01...

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

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Post by davidw »

cmiles74 wrote: post #84
davidw wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not opposed to legal cannabis at all, but as a cyclist, I'm very opposed to impaired driving whether it's booze, pot, or staring at a mobile phone.

I'm a cyclist as well and impairment via cell-phone or hands-free call has been the most threatening for myself personally. And every parking lot ever is liking gambling with my life.

I'd agree - but probably because it seems to be so common compared to drunk or high people.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

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Post by davidw »

InitialLastName wrote: post #82
wolco wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about coffee, sugar or people driving with headaches? Those three can really affect my driving.

Past that, if you've been awake for 18 hours, you're very likely to be impaired to the same extent as a 0.08 BAC.

Certainly. That's not a good reason to let people drive high or drunk though.

Re: Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis

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Post by beachy »

cmiles74 wrote: post #50
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #15

So many naysayers here, many of which probably aren't sharing the road with cannabis consuming drivers in a region where it is 100% legal like here in Canada. I've consumed it many times, and I know how impaired I'd be behind the wheel. It terrifies me to think of all the idiots who are probably out there driving while stoned, pretending they're "perfectly fine." EDIT: cool, these guys are around the corner from wher…

It's legal where I live and the drivers on the road have not changed significantly. For those opposed to legal cannabis use, it's easy to blame any traffic infraction on cannabis. I don't think we have data available that backs up that hypothesis. In areas where cannabis has been legalized for recreational use, the incidence of traffic accidents has remained the same. https://www.nber.org/papers/w24417

> In areas where cannabis has been legalized for recreational use, the incidence of traffic accidents has remained the same.

Perhaps that indicates an opportunity - if there was a way to check for stoned drivers, it might have gone down.

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