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Uh Oh, Internet: Basic Mobile Video Will be YouTube-Only With MetroPCS Plans

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Re: Uh Oh, Internet: Basic Mobile Video Will be YouTube-Only With MetroPCS Plans

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I'm more stunned by the price: I pay 20€ for unlimited and unrestricted data access with a double SIM (one mobile broadband, other for phone). And they want to charge more for other video access?

I’m shocked by how expensive mobile internet is in the US. I’m with giffgaff here in the UK, and I pay £10/month for 250 calling minutes, unlimited SMS and unlimited internet (no fair use policy).

Yea I was shocked after i moved from germany to the US. Even worse is the coverage here

Re: Uh Oh, Internet: Basic Mobile Video Will be YouTube-Only With MetroPCS Plans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is competition in mobile internet, whereas for non-mobile many people only have one or two realistic choices. That could be why mobile gets less regulation.

Sprint usb type mobile broadband plan: $59.99/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract. Verizon usb type mobile broadband plan: $50/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract AT&T usb type mobile broadband plan: $60/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract T-mobile usb type mobile broadband plan: $39.99 for 5 gigs no contract So yeah, it seems rather unlikely that any cartel like cooperation on tiering would evolve in this market. (EDIT: Upda…

I don't know where you're getting your numbers from for t-mobile:

T-mobile usb type mobile broadband plan $39.99 5GB no contract (even more plus webConnect)

Re: Uh Oh, Internet: Basic Mobile Video Will be YouTube-Only With MetroPCS Plans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is competition in mobile internet, whereas for non-mobile many people only have one or two realistic choices. That could be why mobile gets less regulation.

Sprint usb type mobile broadband plan: $59.99/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract. Verizon usb type mobile broadband plan: $50/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract AT&T usb type mobile broadband plan: $60/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract T-mobile usb type mobile broadband plan: $39.99 for 5 gigs no contract So yeah, it seems rather unlikely that any cartel like cooperation on tiering would evolve in this market. (EDIT: Upda…

That's misleading in a couple ways.

First, you have omitted other providers whose prices are not similar to those above. Clear, for example.

Second, competition is about more than just price. It is also about features and restrictions. The provider that this thread is about is offering a lower priced plan WITHOUT a contract, but with restrictions on what you can do with it.

(EDIT: continuing, as I thought of another significant factor)

Another problem is that you are looking at mobile USB internet access plans, rather than mobile phone access plans. Most users don't have a strong opinion (or any opinion at all) on which particular dongle is hanging off their laptop. Hence, given several mobile USB internet providers offering similar level of service (e.g., 5 GB/month) and similar terms and conditions (2 year contract), the expected result in a competitive market is for them to all charge about the same price.

Of course, in a non-competitive market dominated by a cartel, the expected result is ALSO for them to all charge the same price.

Net (no pun intended) result: your examples provide no evidence one way or the other on the question of competitiveness in mobile internet.

Re: Uh Oh, Internet: Basic Mobile Video Will be YouTube-Only With MetroPCS Plans

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Well that really sucks. I wonder how they'll be implementing it, and how plausible it will be for other video sites to make themselves unblockable.

> I wonder how they'll be implementing it, and how plausible it will be for other video sites to make themselves unblockable.

Yes, I'd like some information on this as well. Will it be possible to circumvent their block using encryption? The article says only the videos themselves will be blocked, not the websites.

Re: Uh Oh, Internet: Basic Mobile Video Will be YouTube-Only With MetroPCS Plans

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Well that really sucks. I wonder how they'll be implementing it, and how plausible it will be for other video sites to make themselves unblockable.

Behind the scenes I bet it will be the same censorship technology as used in countries like China. The only difference is the way that the censorship is marketed, in the form of service plans.

Re: Uh Oh, Internet: Basic Mobile Video Will be YouTube-Only With MetroPCS Plans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sprint usb type mobile broadband plan: $59.99/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract. Verizon usb type mobile broadband plan: $50/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract AT&T usb type mobile broadband plan: $60/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract T-mobile usb type mobile broadband plan: $39.99 for 5 gigs no contract So yeah, it seems rather unlikely that any cartel like cooperation on tiering would evolve in this market. (EDIT: Upda…

I don't know where you're getting your numbers from for t-mobile: T-mobile usb type mobile broadband plan $39.99 5GB no contract (even more plus webConnect)

Hmm, you're right. I had gotten them from here: http://mobile-broadband-services-review.toptenreviews.com/ - I started getting them from sprint and verizon, but when I came across that and it fit what I had already found I went with it for the rest.

Thanks for the catch!

Quick check of the other 3 numbers shows that they're accurate according to the provider websites.

Re: Uh Oh, Internet: Basic Mobile Video Will be YouTube-Only With MetroPCS Plans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is competition in mobile internet, whereas for non-mobile many people only have one or two realistic choices. That could be why mobile gets less regulation.

Sprint usb type mobile broadband plan: $59.99/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract. Verizon usb type mobile broadband plan: $50/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract AT&T usb type mobile broadband plan: $60/mo for 5 gigs on 2 year contract T-mobile usb type mobile broadband plan: $39.99 for 5 gigs no contract So yeah, it seems rather unlikely that any cartel like cooperation on tiering would evolve in this market. (EDIT: Upda…

I don't really disagree with what you're saying but...

Verizon is $50/mo/5GB and that's LTE (4G) -- and if they don't subsidize the device, no contract.

MetroPCS is $60/mo (including taxes) for unlimited phone service including LTE. I don't like what they're doing here but if their service is any good (doubt it), that's a good deal.

Re: Uh Oh, Internet: Basic Mobile Video Will be YouTube-Only With MetroPCS Plans

#30

Has anyone actually located where MetroPCS makes sets these rules? I have not been able to find them in the TOS

here: http://www.metropcs.com/presscenter/newsreleasedetails.aspx?... "The $40 service plan offers unlimited talk, text, 4G Web browsing with unlimited YouTube access."
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