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Cool but obscure X11 tools

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Re: Cool but obscure X11 tools

#51
Ah Motif, XBill and Afterstep! My nostalgia bit just got set.

My first experiences of GUI programming on Unix (HPUX on a Motorola 68040 machine) was with Motif, which was a pretty good toolkit after you got used to the very long function names.

Re: Cool but obscure X11 tools

#52
My two favorites were xev, for finding out which key/event codes I needed to put in config files, and xnest, for trying out new window managers or containing window-happy applications in a single top-level window before workspaces became a common thing.

Re: Cool but obscure X11 tools

#54
post #25

How come gvim is obscure?

Guess 1: this page was originally going to be "Cool X11 Tools from the 1990's."

Guess 2: perhaps the X11 version of vim is obscure. I usually visualize vim users working in a terminal, with those interested in a GUI text editor using something else.

Re: Cool but obscure X11 tools

#55
post #22

xeyes isn't obscure , how else do you test that ssh x forwarding works otherwise :)

Glad to know I’m not the only one! That and glxgears.

Exactly. Glxgears was (at least traditionally) how you tested whether your video driver was using any of the 3D acceleration!

Re: Cool but obscure X11 tools

#56
post #26

>XLennart is a modification of the arcade game XBill. >An evil and unpopular computer hacker named “Lennart”[1] tries to install his malicious init system on various BSD and Linux systems. >Like in XBill, the player has to hit him and restore infected systems. [1] https://cyber.dabamos.de/unix/x11/poettering.gif

For clarity, Lennart Poettering is an extremely prolific guy that people somehow love to hate. At the end of the day, his critics either use his software begrudgingly, or use somebody else's to their own detriment, just to spite him. I take some time every year to thank Lennart for systemd and PulseAudio; I remember when the grass was parched brown on my side, green has been a welcome change!

I simply used to disable PulseAudio in favour of Alsa until it started working properly Out of the Box in a distro (which took, what, 3, 4, years?)

Not saying it wasn't needed, but it was anything but stable or efficient at the beginning (and given said person's behaviour in dealing with bugs and vulnerabilities in systemd, it is not hard to see why)

Re: Cool but obscure X11 tools

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For clarity, Lennart Poettering is an extremely prolific guy that people somehow love to hate. At the end of the day, his critics either use his software begrudgingly, or use somebody else's to their own detriment, just to spite him. I take some time every year to thank Lennart for systemd and PulseAudio; I remember when the grass was parched brown on my side, green has been a welcome change!

I simply used to disable PulseAudio in favour of Alsa until it started working properly Out of the Box in a distro (which took, what, 3, 4, years?) Not saying it wasn't needed, but it was anything but stable or efficient at the beginning (and given said person's behaviour in dealing with bugs and vulnerabilities in systemd, it is not hard to see why)

Well Fedora users are the beta testers, right?

Re: Cool but obscure X11 tools

#58
post #26

>XLennart is a modification of the arcade game XBill. >An evil and unpopular computer hacker named “Lennart”[1] tries to install his malicious init system on various BSD and Linux systems. >Like in XBill, the player has to hit him and restore infected systems. [1] https://cyber.dabamos.de/unix/x11/poettering.gif

Wait. So we had the prophecy of systemd and we still let it happen?

Thats it. Back to the church or X for me.

Re: Cool but obscure X11 tools

#59
post #40

That grey-and-pink color scheme from the screenshots gives me such a wave of nostalgia. It is fascinating how this color scheme is both terribly, terribly ugly and gorgeous at the same time. ;-)

sadly window managers also abandoned proper borders. i mostly use windows-10 themes on gnome/kde because it at least gives me a single pixel border. nobody bothered porting the original motif window like in those screens to any moder wm.
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