This problem wouldn't exist if there was no "moderation" (which is censorship) at all.
4chan tried that; everyone knows how spectacularly that failed.
YouTube’s LGBTQ Problem Is a Business-Model Problem
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#32What if monetized videos can't be viewed without spending "ad bucks"? To earn "ad bucks", you have to watch an ad. The ad watching takes place in a dedicated ads section of the site, completely independent of all videos. The vast majority of monetized videos would cost 1 ad buck, so watch one ad. The ad watching is just a giant "watch ad" button. The algorithm goes through all all the info about me and shows me a rel…
Ads don't convert if people are externally motivated to watch them.
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#33Happens to all creators equaly because that's how the algorithm works.
It doesn't. LGBTQ is a category that gets special cased in order to block homophobic creators. But it mainly just blocks pro-LGBTQ creators because the homophobic creators are more likely to speak in dog whistles that the blocking algorithms don't understand, whereas the pro-LGBTQ creators speak frankly and quote homophobic speech in order to comment on it.
A lot of these suers are just making videos of sex toys[1] and other stuff that is very well known to be sensitive stuff despite the irony of all pop culture being about sex. This lawsuit has nothing to stand on, even people making videos of electronics get striked, harassed, deplatformed. They just assume it's because of lgbt, but it's standard YouTube.
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#35This problem wouldn't exist if there was no "moderation" (which is censorship) at all.
The problem is the same as our current society, some people will never get along, stop trying to put everyone in a single platform
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> doing this really changes the economics of the platform Not to mention that moderating this kind of stuff can seriously mess you up: https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/19/18681845/facebook-moderat... You end up looking at not just mean words but CP, seriously gory stuff, fringe sexual deviancy, and more. Do we really want to do this to moderators?
If YouTube can't protect its users, and the content people are posting is too distressing even for moderators, maybe YouTube shouldn't exist?
Great solution that is not at all impractical in any way.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
>What about crowdsourcing efforts? Why are user flags insufficient? Because this will devolve into different groups flagging their opponents' videos. This will especially hurt the voices of minorities and other vulnerable populations.
What about attaching a 'reputation' score to the flagger? E.g. something like: - if there are sufficient flags, trigger a moderator review - flaggers who correctly flagged content get +1 score or -1 score if not that would make it harder for people to consistently flag content maliciously. Like age-old moderation systems such as calling 911 or police. If you abuse calling 911, you can get fined. I imagine this has be…
Yep, I believe there is a way for sure. YouTube can evaluate users by how likely it is that their flag results in long term removal of a video. If a user cries wolf too many times or flags videos later marked as not controversial at all, then that user probably should not have flag powers.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> doing this really changes the economics of the platform Not to mention that moderating this kind of stuff can seriously mess you up: https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/19/18681845/facebook-moderat... You end up looking at not just mean words but CP, seriously gory stuff, fringe sexual deviancy, and more. Do we really want to do this to moderators?
If YouTube can't protect its users, and the content people are posting is too distressing even for moderators, maybe YouTube shouldn't exist?
The obvious solution is to restrict who can use YouTube in some way that anti-correlates with posting awful stuff.
I don't know specifically, but there must be something.
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#39This problem wouldn't exist if there was no "moderation" (which is censorship) at all.
The problem is the same as our current society, some people will never get along, stop trying to put everyone in a single platform
People generally can get along, it's just in certain countries there is this state pushed divide and conquer [1] that's been going on for way too long.