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Re: The Dubai Job

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Awesome article. No bullshit, no advertising... just plain win.

It is a bit sensational, but I suppose that is to be expected.

>... the trafficking of huge amounts of rockets and sophisticated weaponry into Gaza, which have been used to devastating effect since the start of the second intifada in 2000.

I don't think the weapons smuggled into were particularly sophisticated and I don't think they were used to devastating effect at all.

Still a very informative piece though.

Re: The Dubai Job

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Awesome article. No bullshit, no advertising... just plain win.

It is a bit sensational, but I suppose that is to be expected. >... the trafficking of huge amounts of rockets and sophisticated weaponry into Gaza, which have been used to devastating effect since the start of the second intifada in 2000. I don't think the weapons smuggled into were particularly sophisticated and I don't think they were used to devastating effect at all. Still a very informative piece though.

> I don't think they were used to devastating effect at all.

That's a matter of perspective. I think the citizens of Ashdod would disagree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_I...

Re: The Dubai Job

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a bit sensational, but I suppose that is to be expected. >... the trafficking of huge amounts of rockets and sophisticated weaponry into Gaza, which have been used to devastating effect since the start of the second intifada in 2000. I don't think the weapons smuggled into were particularly sophisticated and I don't think they were used to devastating effect at all. Still a very informative piece though.

> I don't think they were used to devastating effect at all. That's a matter of perspective. I think the citizens of Ashdod would disagree. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_I...

The structural devestation has certainly been significantly less than many other devestations I could name which are happening contemperaneously.

However, I can't speak for the psychological (and other forms) of devestation that may be happening in Ashdod and Sderot. I would like to know more about that.

Re: The Dubai Job

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It seems like the operation was tactically a great success, but strategically a failure.

The agents seem to have been very well trained and carried out their task very effectively.

There has been serious negative fall-out, though, including the unmasking of a number of important agents, and worsening ties with Dubai and the countries whose passports were forged.

Re: The Dubai Job

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If anyone is interested in further reading I can recommend "The Other Side of Deception" by former Mossad officer Victor Ostrovsky. (Note that this is the sequel to "By Way of Deception" by the same author, it is more informational and matter-of-fact than the first book.)

Re: The Dubai Job

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This is interesting: "Any operative trying to reach a colleague—whether in the hotel down the street or at the command post in Israel—dialed one of a handful of numbers in Austria, from which the call was then rerouted to its destination. But since dozens of calls were made to and from this short list of Austrian numbers over a period of less than two days, the moment that the cover of a single operative was blown and his cell phone records became available to the authorities, all others who called or received calls from the same numbers were at risk of being identified."

Given that the agents have had enough time to leave Dubai, I wonder how did the authorities identify the initial phone number whose billings were checked. Have the agents called an easily identifiable hotel landline?

Re: The Dubai Job

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Al-Mabhouh's number was clearly up. The article sensationalises the diplomatic damage between Israel and the US/UK-- it's called blowback and the Mossad was willing to pay the price if mistakes were made. Operations this complex rarely come off flawlessly, but it was very well done, "good enough" you might say. With their objective accomplished and their agents disappeared before Hamas knew what was going on, the mission was a success.
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